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1. it is highly relevant outside the western bubble, 2. their domestic market is large enough that china does not have to whore itself out to the west like korea or japan, 3. you gloss over the deliberate suppression by the US regime. japan was not "culturally relevant" in the US before the late 80s when they bent the knee


> but your statement about China is straight from a CCP propaganda handbook.

and? the Chinese people live and believe it. propaganda can be true, and governments can in fact live up to their statements. ofc with westerners' pathological mistrust of authority, as well as their penchant to pick the worst possible leaders, we will never come to any agreement about this.

also, are we seriously still unironically typing "guanxi" in this day and age? social capital is hardly something to be exoticized. keep the orientalist rhetoric where it belongs please.


> the Chinese people live and believe it.

some of them do; the well educated ones don't.

> propaganda can be true

except that it's not

I lived in China for years and am pretty well versed in life there under Xi and how the "rule of law" actually works there.

> unironically typing "guanxi" in this day and age

I left China in 2017 so it's _possible_ that things have dramatically changed since then, but from all accounts it hasn't. So it's not ironic because everything still runs on guanxi rather than on the rule of law.


I've heard the explanation of "planned corruption" from two different upper class Chinese people.

The idea being that there is a gunaxi correlated "budget for corruption," but use of that budget comes with strings, and if corruption is engaged in, you are effectively signing a contract for results and that results forgives the corruption.

The mandarin first speaker who first said the idea didn't explain it exactly like that, but believed it completely and without question. The Cantonese first speaker who explained it more rigorously believed it in practice, but also that the corruption budget was far exceeding what was "planned" for creating crisis. Both asserted their own superiority to India, which also has a culture of corruption without a culture that demands results. Neither of them knew eachother.

Certainly when I heard that, my American ideological immune system was like "uh hu, that's certainly an interesting perspective." I was reminded of stories about how stringent military quartermasters are because it's understood that corruption is viral.

But it's hard to argue that China does not have results, long term thinking (kinda), and it appears to act on behalf of the public more.

Around the time of Hong Kong, I was fully on board with "Kantian universalize-able ideals restricting the actions of societies most rich and powerful" being a good definition for Rule of law, but since Trump round 2 in particular, I've come to analyze rule of law not by what it is, but what its outputs are supposed to be with the underlying assumption that any system that produces results must in some ways have structure that reflect Rule of Law.

Rule of law is when people, particularly leaders, subordinate to an idea/reality/reason rather than to a hierarchical structure/arbitrariness, so even if there is corruption consequences for failure and reward for success is rule of law-ish. I think that's even more visible when compared to the western standard of reward for failure and reward for success, more commonly stated as "rugged capitalism for the poor and socialism for the rich" or "privatize profits and socialize risks."


yea the government is scaring them, not anything the US is doing. sure. the mental gymnastics know no bounds


What is the US doing to Chinese visitors?



The US forced her to overstay her visa and commit suicide?


well apple silicon has only been out for like 5 years


..did you only learn chinese academically or something? anyone in china would think of Mao if you said 小红书 (well, at least before the app)


in what sense could you _possibly_ argue this

from both legal and realpolitik lenses the Taiwan issue is fully legitimate. your country has done far worse to Cuba for far less. Even setting aside the historical context and the Chinese civil war, what is illegitimate about not wanting an antagonistic and belligerent foreign power installing weapons in an island mere miles off the mainland coast?


and that has what, exactly, to do with the legitimacy of said grievances?


Because for all of Russia's apocalyptic rhetoric about the dire consequences of NATO membership on their borders, they've done nothing significant about Finland and Sweden actually becoming NATO members while stepping up their military spending. By comparison, a little political noise about Ukraine maybe joining NATO someday is much less of a provocation, which makes it seem unlikely to have been Russia's actual reason for invasion. And from any reasonable ethical perspective it's certainly not a legitimate one.


The NATO stuff is such propaganda, the idea has always been imperialism and to take the people and turn them into Russians.


no serious fan of the sport would agree. not even truls would consider him to be the 2nd best in the world. but yes, he did have an amazing run to the silver


How insightful could this possibly be if socioeconomic variables are not controlled for? Clearly the socioeconomic makeup of "US Asians" is not the same as, say, the entire population of Korean students.

Also, "US Asians" is a silly grouping..


Your first paragraph is 10, 20 years out of date. And you conflate the prestige & economic power of the US with its education quality. As your example exemplifies, those coming here for school are coming for economic reasons (an increasingly less compelling draw, by the way), not because they think the education here is special.


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