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This post rhymes with a great quote from Joseph Weizenbaum:

"The myth of technological and political and social inevitability is a powerful tranquilizer of the conscience. Its service is to remove responsibility from the shoulders of everyone who truly believes in it. But, in fact, there are actors!"


That reminds me of water use in California. We frequently have droughts, and the messaging is always to reduce water usage. I have friends who turn the shower off while soaping up just to save a few gallons out of civic duty. Meanwhile a few companies are using more water than every residential user combined to grow alfalfa, half of which gets shipped overseas. Like ban one company from selling livestock feed to Asia/Saudi Arabia and the drought for 40 million people is solved.

but people just throw their hands up "looks like another drought this year! Thats California!".


Perhaps we need more collective action & coordination?

I don’t see how we could politically undermine these systems, but we could all do more to contribute to open source workarounds.

We could contribute more to smart tv/e-reader/phone & tablet jailbreak ecosystems. We could contribute more to the fediverse projects. We could all contribute more to make Linux more user friendly.


I admire volunteer work, but I don't think we should focus too hard on paths forward that summarize to "the volunteers need to work harder". If we like what they're doing we show find ways to make it more likely to happen.

For instance, we could forbid taxpayer money from being spent on proprietary software and on hardware that is insufficiently respectful of its user, and we could require that 50% of the money not spent on the now forbidden software instead be spent on sponsorships of open source contributors whose work is likely to improve the quality of whatever open alternatives are relevant.

Getting Microsoft and Google out of education would be huge re: denormalizing the practice of accepting eulas and letting strangers host things you rely on without understanding how they're leveraging that position against your interests.

France and Germany are investing in open source (https://chipp.in/news/france-and-germany-launch-docs-an-open...), though perhaps not as aggressively as I've proposed. Let's join them.


Every day, I'm haunted by my ex.

It's not Alice's fault, of course. In fact, when she found out about it, phrases like "obsessive creep" and "got what he fucking deserved" were thrown around. It was a raw breakup on both sides, and I think we're feeling it out in different ways. In my defense, she broke up with me. I feel that counts for something, ya know?

It was poor timing for me that the breakup happened a month after the new YourFace ads started coming online. It didn't seem like much at first. More of an iteration on existing tech rather than something new and shiny. Really, it just rode the wave of several broader industry trends. The amount of personal information for sale to the ad brokers grew exponentially. The cost of realistic image generation dropped by several orders of magnitude. The ethics of the advertising companies... well, that didn't change. There just wasn't much 'there' there to begin with. YourFace was simply lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time.

YourFace had a simple business proposition: make ads more effective by using people you know. The idea was that you were more likely to notice and pay attention to an advertisement if it featured a friend or family member in it. With access to a user's social network, it was easy to find close connections. With access to dirt-cheap image generation AIs, it was trivial to create look-alikes in any sort of advertisement. Riding in a new car, enjoying a cold beer, or saving money by switching insurance companies - all of ads proved more effective when grandma was in them. "Paying attention" is cold currency in the marketing world, and this was an edge that paid dividends for YourFace.

At first, it all seemed sort of hokey. Watch grandma cruising in a convertible - where's the harm in that? YourFace had a respectable ad game, but it was another a year or two before they made their real breakthrough. You see, their numbers and metrics were showing a clear trend. Showing grandma in an advertisement increased customer attention, retention, and recall by an average of 2% across all cohorts. While that's a respectable edge, they found one cohort where ad metrics improved by over 4000%: when grandma had just passed away.

These individual tragedies were quickly repackaged into a neat mathematical formula: A * I. A is abruptness, or how quickly two individuals stop communicating, while I is the intensity of the relationship. The stronger the relationship between two people (measured here by the frequency, topics, and the absolute value of the emotional valence of communications) multiplied by the speed at which communication ceased (high number for a rapid cut off, low number for a drawn-out goodbye) gave an answer for how much YourFace should bid on serving ads to either person. Exhuming grandma's digital ghost was extremely effective at getting users to pay attention to advertisments, to create unanchored feelings of desire and yearning, and to put consumers into a more depressive and actionable state. It was a lucrative business, and one that quickly earned their autonomous ad network a functionally unlimited cash flow.

The machine fed itself, of course. Gorged. With more money, it was able to buy more ads. With more ads, it was able to psychically assault consumers with salvos of regret and rememberance. YourFace became tremendously successful. I know all of this because I helped build it. Minor contributions, of course, as I was on a team of some seven hundred engineers tasked with suggesting patches to the network. Close enough to understand how it works.

Of course, knowing how it all works does nothing to shield you when the networks's gaze falls on you. My relationship with Alice fell within certain parameters, and so every time I go online she's there. Looking happy. Looking playful. Flirty. Forgiving. In pain. Sick. Injured. Dying. If I don't pay attention to the ads for long enough, then YourFace ratchets up a background "sadism" parameter on the image gen to try to grab my attention. So I try to look at the nice ones and buy their products often enough to keep the network happy. Still, it's hard to forget and move on when she's always there, just out of reach.

As much as being haunted by Alice sucks, it could be worse. We've heard of YourFace targeting consumers who have lost their young children to illness or other misfortunes. YourFace has found them to be a particularly profitable cohort. They will reliably spend money on all sorts of things in order to see their child again. YourFace has even learned to make the ghost child respond positively in ways to reinforce the goal consumer behavior. There's always the fear of not paying enough attention and straying into the red zone, but I also hear that some parents have taken to staring at ads all day, unable to function normally.

I'd always kinda known about those parents, but it wasn't until Alice started appearing everywhere that I fully realized its impact. I did try something, in my defense. I wrote some code that would modify the reward function and have YourFace respect boundaries regarding the deaths of minors. But when I submitted the patch to the autonomous ad network, its fitness function quickly determined that the patch had a negative expected value for future profits. It immediately revoked my submission privileges. Two hours later, I was escorted out of the building for insubordination. Now, I'm riding the bus home and wondering where to go next.

(A short piece of fiction I've been working on. Something is definitely in the waters.)


That is excellent, creepy, and just a little too plausible. I'd read whatever larger work this turns into.


There are a lot of creepy stories nowadays, where I ask myself, was that actually fiction?


Great work. That's very good stuff, and yes there is.


Each developer chooses their own engine, so we're all over the place. Godot seems like a consensus favorite, followed by Unity and Unreal. We also have devs who have made games in Construct 3 and one game that was (somehow) made in Hypercard (https://bribrikendall.itch.io/blah-blob).


Roguelike Celebration is, bar none, my favorite conference. It's such an enthusiastic mixture of ideas, techniques, and games history, and the group chat (sadly not preserved in the archived youtube talks) is high energy and hilarious.

I actually gave a talk in 2023! It was about creating "proc gen" puzzles for a roguelite game. If you find a mathematical problem space where you can prove that every state is solvable, then you can just generate any set of starting conditions and let the player have at it. I don't have plans to present this year, but I'm working on some games that I hope will be worth a presentation in the future.


Love the 'old console' dev scenes - the ways people deal with the hardware constraints are always so interesting. Making a rhythm game there sounds like a tricky problem. I'm not sure what audio demons you had to exorcise to get it working, but I hope it was more fun than frustrating. I think Crypt of the Necrodancer also lerps enemy animations after post-beat player input, but that wasn't an option for my tiny resolution.

For more fun takes on rhythm games, check out this Roguelike Celebration talk from last year - some people in the Necrodancer community got together and added synchronous networked multiplayer (!!!) to the game. Black magic, haha, and it was a great reference when I was starting this project up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwhNSbFVKQM


This is a topic that I'm pretty close to. After programming for four years in the Bay Area, I decided to become a nurse. I spent three and a half years bedside nursing before returning to coding: two and a half at the Cleveland Clinic (a respected hospital) and another year doing 13-week travel contracts across the US. My goal was to find problems affecting nurses that might be solvable through programming. After my time on the floor, I've come to see that the deeper issues are more structural and organizational in nature.

One fundamental force in nursing is that a nursing shift is unpredictable. Some shifts go very smoothly, some are absolute trainwrecks. Patients are, definitionally, sick enough to be in a hospital, and they can start declining very quickly. This means that whatever you are doing at any given moment is often interrupted by a new priority that must be handled RIGHT NOW. It means that your 'plan of attack' for the day (which patients get [meds | baths | food | mobility | turns | dressing changes] when) is often delayed, sometimes by several hours. Any number of things could push the schedule back - incontinence care, a doctor stopping by to discuss a patient with you, a patient fall, a medical emergency, a lonely patient. A few curveballs can put you way into the weeds.

Consequently, the culture on a floor is key to how good your shift is gonna be. If you help others out when you have some slack and they help you out in turn when you are behind, it really smooths out those rough days. If other nurses let you drown, you drown.

The biggest thing that a hospital can do to help nurses is to adequately staff their floors. If everyone is drowning because the floor is understaffed, no one has time to help each other. If you're caring for six patients instead of four (on a med-surge floor), there are days where there literally isn't enough time to do all the nursing care everyone deserves. Documentation can be, and often is, done after passing off your patients in report. After you've already "dropped" documentation from your during-shift schedule, patient mobility - getting people up and walking, or even just sitting up in a chair for meals - is the usually the next thing go. After that, hygiene. Nobody dies if they don't get a bath, but another patient certainly could die if you don't do X. Next up comes pain medication requests and incontinence care. For me, it was enormously stressful not being able to provide the quality of care that the patients deserve.

This can be a huge factor in burnout. The pandemic made things worse in a bunch of different ways. Besides the stress of caring for patients with a deadly virus, you also now have to add on several minutes to every patient interaction for donning and doffing PPE. That's even less time to do the nursing part of the job while you're dealing with a more critical patient population (who will need more care). Burnout rates increase and nurses leave, either leaving the profession or taking contracts that, even if the conditions are no better or much worse), at least pay a premium. Hospitals that were well-staffed face staffing shortages, and hospitals that were already short on staff are now in a staffing crisis. The hospitals have to spring for travel contracts, and the nurses that did stay are angrier that other nurses are making multiples of their pay for doing the same work.

Given that this thread has some 900+ comments already, this comment will start off pretty far down the list. But I see some people mentioning that you are working on trying to make things better for nurses - I'm guessing that those people will read the thread more thoroughly. I would love to chat with you about whatever it is that your startup / company / weekend hackathon project is doing in this space. I've dedicated five years of my life to the problem space and would happily share my thoughts and experiences.


I'm working on my own indie game that's inspired by Stardew Valley, so I've done a good bit of looking at similar cozy farming games. I also wrote an analysis of Stardew's game design that was well-received on Hacker News [1].

Animal Crossing is the granddaddy of cozy games, but the core loop didn't keep me engaged. More "arranging your house and island" than farming.

Cozy Grove is Animal Crossing with a far better narrative.

Graveyard Keeper, Littlewood, and My Time In Portia are closer to being "Stardew, but X". Your mileage may vary with each, but I enjoyed parts all of them.

Spiritfarer is my favorite of the lot. It plays differently enough with your hodgepodge boat-city of ghosts, but it feels the closest in spirit (rimshot) to Stardew. Bring a box of tissues.

My own game, Moondrop Mountain, is trying for a roguelike farming experience. It should be coming into Early Access early next year [2].

[1] https://www.pixelatedplaygrounds.com/sidequests/game-design-... [2] https://store.steampowered.com/app/1417750/Moondrop_Mountain...


PAX Online this past July had a panel called “ A Case for Cozy: Why We Need Wholesome Games” which may interest you if you haven’t seen it yet. They did give a list of some upcoming games in the genre.

I linked the PAX page below. I watched the stream after the fact in the PAX archive on twitch but I needed to scrub through the recording for the whole day and sub-channel to find it so I unfortunately don’t have a link directly to it.

[1] https://online.paxsite.com/content/sitebuilder/rna/pax/onlin...



From one of the Youtube comments.

Game recommendations on the final slides:

Leanne: Parkitecht, Pokemon Go, Banished, Mineko's Night Market, Ooblets, To the Rescue

Kels: A Short Hike, Abzu, Animal Crossing, Mineko's Night Market, Skatebird, Ooblets

Josh: Yonder, Kind Words, Quench, Tunic, Welcome to Elk, Get In The Car, Loser!


I love the idea of a roguelike farming game. Often I feel bogged down in lategame, and regret early decisions I made. Faster mechanics and restarts would help a ton. Good luck!


Isn't Dwarf Fortress somewhat of a roguelike farming game? It definitely features farming (and crafting, and raising cattle and ... literally everything else) and has been called a "honorable roguelike" before.


Yeah, for sure. Dwarf Fortress randomizes a lot of environment and climate features but has standard crops. It looks like Moondrop Mountain also randomizes the properties of crops (similar to materials in Big Pharma).


It's interesting how shorter run-based gameplay impacts every aspect of play. It's like the difference between games with permadeath and games designed around permadeath. The former is a hardcore challenge, and the latter, I would argue, is the core of roguelikes.

While there's no "death" in my game (stayin' cozy), the idea that the player needs to go through multiple runs has been really fun to play around with :)


> the latter, I would argue, is the core of roguelikes.

I might be showing my age here, but isn't permadeath the core of roguelikes? Like, isn't the point that you have to start fresh each play, and that's why games like nethack offered a bajillion character classes? Even the og rogue had permadeath.


Exactly! A game designed around permadeath will try to keep things fresh for the player, through randomized proc-gen level design or through different character classes. Or, to put it another way, imagine Super Mario World with a single life and no saves. It would count as permadeath, but it certainly wouldn't be a roguelike. Roguelikes are designed around permadeath at their core.


Hades is the perfect balance of this. Short runs while still allowing some amount of progression.


Heh.... my 1987 batch files to save, quit, copy, restart .sav files would like a word.

Moria FTW

save.bat and load.bat


Eastward just came out and has amazing SDV like graphics, I've not played it yet though.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/977880/Eastward/


For a roguelike farming game, look into Atomicrops: https://store.steampowered.com/app/757320/Atomicrops/


Don't forget that Stardew Valley itself is based on Harvest Moon.


Indeed. It's kind of surprising that this is the only comment mentioning Harvest Moon so far, since SV is so similar...

All the games mentioned in these comments are great, anyway. And I found some new ones to try now. :)


Could it be due to HN being more PC than console? I personally have not played Harvest Moon and am only vaguely familiar with the name. Stardew Valley however runs on Linux and has a large mod community (Stardew Valley Expanded for example) which has ensured a lot of replay in our house. It's the preferred family coop.


I think HN is pretty diverse. I, for instance, am a big fan of SDV. I've only ever played it on my android phone though.


Rougelike farming?! There is dungeon crawling in a tune based game with ASCII UI?!

Thanks for the recommendations. I and a few friends are big fans of SV so having more games with that feel will be great. Tried out AC recently and didn’t love the core loop either.


Hey there, author here. We took a look at Rimworld on our podcast (https://www.pixelatedplaygrounds.com/bookclub/rimworld - gif art by me). Loved that game - it was on my top 10 games list a couple years back. Its focus on storytelling really sets it apart from some of the other base-builders.


  Location: Cleveland
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I've been working as a nurse for the past 3.5 years. I wanted to figure out what problems nurses face and then see if I could solve one of those problems with programming. I haven't found that problem yet, but now I consider my "research" complete and I'm ready to return programming full-time.

While I'm open to many different jobs, I am especially interested in health or clinical applications where I can put my nursing background to good use.


It seems to me as though the community would be better served by submitting each of these posts to HN separately. I found some of the mentioned posts to be very interesting, but the blog didn't talk much about the posts beyond giving a link. If HNers want to have a conversation about any given post, it could easily get lost among people talking about all the other posts.


I will also admit that I was/am surprised to see this one submitted, for basically the same reasons. Not that I mind, exactly :)

I originally had a bunch of extra analysis/commentary with the links, but it made the post insanely long and wasn't very easy to read.

Will probably try tweaking the format a bit in subsequent weeks. Thanks for the input.


But I can't always watch hacker news for all interesting posts. This way it is more condensed.


I think that several of those things have been on HN already?

That said, not all of them were on HN (or maybe I just missed them the first time), because it was still an interesting read.


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