It'd be perfect if we can have a toggle to switch to metric system, like kilometers, meters, celsius for temperature, etc. I find it very hard to follow the numbers expressed in miles
It is quite clever. My own rule of thumb is "add half of the amount in miles, then 10% of the (original) amount in miles". What's interesting is that it happens to be just as precise as the method shown above (ie. 1.6 v 1.609 v 1.618 )
Yeah but Fahrenheit still feels super alien and unintuitive if you haven’t used it much. I have like three or four approximate values that I think I know what they feel like, but most of the time I really have to stop and think.
For casual human use I would say Fahrenheit is one of the more easily defended imperial units since it has more resolution.
In reality hearing its 80 outside where I live could mean beautiful day or sweltering mugginess so it's never been a great indicator for me regardless of unit.
Or when people adjust a thermostat by like 2 degrees. If you changed it and didn't tell me idk if I would even perceive it. Temperature is weird.
The resolution part doesn't really hold for me, celsius can have decimals to have as much precision as you need but for weather purpose, half degree precision is usually more than enough.
"… the US National Weather Service (NWS) uses the Celsius scale internally and when communicating with other scientific agencies, but converts temperatures to Fahrenheit when releasing data to the general public."
That's fair. When I put "I would say" followed by "in reality" it means I don't fully support it.
The previous comment said they don't find F that useful since they aren't familiar. I am, and I dont find it that useful for predicting how it actually feels outside. Celsius doesn't change much for me in that situation.
That's a great way to look at it. Fahrenheit is arguably aligned with how people perceive temperature. Zero is so cold that you probably should stay inside. One hundred is so hot that you should probably stay inside.
I can somehow convert distances in my head, by pace is harder! If someone has a trick to quickly convert between minutes/mile and minutes/km please chime in.
The director, Gabriel Zuchtriegel, wrote a book about Pompeii (I don't know if it was translated to English, since I read it in Italian), and it described why rich people decorated their homes this way. Of course these paintings served to rich homeowners to show off their power, but also to have some fun during dinners. For example, everybody in ancient Rome knew the mith of <name_your_favourite_roman_god>. So, when entering a room with a painting of such god on the wall, after a couple of glasses with their friends, they'd start arguing, "I understood why Jupiter did this and that..." or, sometimes, they painted the mith with something odd just to have fun. It was a conversation starter, a way to be ironic of life and with friends, and a way to enjoy their lives.
Europeans liked to depict the same scenes over and over. There must have been hundreds of versions of “The Adoration of the Magi” done over the centuries.
I have something almost identical, except for the `—-graph` part. That way I have the flexibility to get either the linear view or the graph view by adding that single flag.
Let's remove Musk from the equation, because you can like or (most probably) hate him, but I own a Tesla and I have the opposite experience. Everything worked out of the box. Just one piece of hardware started to fail (the charger plug making some noise) and they changed it in warranty.
First: has the author tried a tesla before buying one? I'd never buy a car without trying it. Because comparing it to a Clio just because the Clio worked, well, seems a bit off. a Clio is a car, a fully functional Tesla is a gian iPad with wheels. There's a huge difference.
Second: when you buy a car, do you ask yourself, how will I fix it in case anything goes wrong? Buying a car in a country where there's no service is a huge no-no.
Third: No doubt that a car with all these defects _must_ be changed, or fixed immediately at no cost of transportation, or offered a compensation to get it back. I think the owner should _also_ contact a lawyer and try to get a refund. I'd not accept this kind of treatment.
Agreed, the quality of the product should speak for itself. We've got people saying they're unreliable, and we've got people saying they're reliable, and that's true for literally every car manufacturer on the planet, so this doesn't tell us much. Anecdotal stuff aside, there's studies done on these things, thankfully, and Tesla consistently ranks poorly. See for example this one (this is just the first one that popped up when I googled "car reliability study", it's probably better if you find your own sources):
Adding another source: TÜV Report 2025 (in German)
In Germany you have to get your car checked every 24 months for its road worthiness (think general doctor checkup but for your car). If it fails, you are not allowed to use it until it's fixed.
At the first general inspection after purchase 2-3 years out, 14.2% of all checked Tesla Model 3s had issues. Comparing that to other models that are on record in sufficient numbers, its a high rate of failure. VW ID.3, for example, had 5%.
It seems that they fail the TUV for two reasons: bad suspensions and rusted brakes. The first one is on Tesla, but the second one has to do with regenerative braking vs real braking. You are supposed to slam your brakes one or two times a year so they don't get rusty, but a lot of users aren't following this and can go a long time without using their brakes because regen braking is so convenient.
PHEVs will run their gas engines after they have not been used in a while in order to keep the gas in them from going stale, it seems odd that the braking system on EVs doesn't do the same for the brakes
If the user just uses regen braking, they are never hitting their brake when they are moving. You would have to work it somehow into the regen, but the stopping curves are completely different for the two, so you would probably wind up surprising the driver if you decided to arbitrarily engage the brake rather than use regen.
Your assumption is that regen and braking have the same behavior and are interchangeable, but I don't think that's the case beyond both of them being used to stop.
It's not. It assesses road-worthiness (aka safety), not reliability.
That article is often quoted in sensationalist media to smear Tesla. Look for actual mileage data and they are one of the, if not THE most reliable vehicle.
Our car inspections are handled by German TÜV, and they do not inspect superficially. If, ~14% of a single brand of car which is ridden with LEDs (which should live forever when compared to halogens), advanced drive systems and other stuff are failing, and has to be re-inspected because of they can't meet the standards, that's pretty bad to be honest.
Failing TÜV means your safety critical systems have problems. This means brakes, suspensions, lighting (front and rear), screen wipers, etc.
So they check for pretty basic, but crucial stuff, and they're tested in a pretty detailed way (brake fade, stopping power, etc.). If your car is failing in just two years in these areas, you're not reliable, and your car will not age well, period.
My 25 year old car aces the test all the time, and the biggest complaint I got on my report is "Your wipers leave streaks, LOL!".
Nope, I don't. I only do its normal interval services. I don't like the cheat the system.
> Also, this doesn't sound environmentally friendly to me.
I'm planning to buy a new hybrid. On the other hand, it has a cat, is our family car since the beginning, so it's in a very good shape emissions-wise (it's tested regularly). Newer cars are better, of course, but it's not an oil burning, smoking, smelling smoke-stack. Its exhaust isn't covered in carbon even.
It's safety, yes. To fail this test there can be any number of causes but for Tesla they specifically mention light, axle, and breaks as failure points.
The 14.2% was for cars receiving their first Hauptuntersuchung (main inspection) done every 24 months (so 2-3 years old cars). If a car model has that many problems while competitors in a similar price range and use model don't, that could point to an issue with part quality.
Other than lights, the problem with control arms and brakes are known. Brake service is recommended and ignored because unlike VW, et all - there's not stealership model to charge you $500 a year for worthless maintenance.
No it doesn't. Service intervals are dependent on mileage. You should be detecting the problems and fixing them at regular servicing.
Ignoring brake checks is endangering life. Even though you have regenerative braking, brakes are used way more often in automatic and gearbox-free cars due to driving dynamics.
Just because there's no so-called stealership, ignoring brakes is not justifiable. So, I can mark Tesla as an irresponsible car company, with a bright and bold marker.
Thanks for narrowing my future car choices and pushing Tesla more out of my mind.
You can mark whatever you want with your bright and bold marker. It doesn't make your argument more sound.
If you are worried about the brakes, brake hard occasionally to avoid rust.
Alternatively, you can charge the car up to near 100% if you go on a roadtrip. Regen will be limited initially so you will be able to use your brakes without braking hard.
If you are still worried about the brakes, go to an independent car mechanic regularly and have them checked.
It's as easy as that.
Nobody is preventing you from doing service even though it's not deemed necessary by the vendor.
Your comment doesn't seem to be about the actual issue but about some form of generalized Tesla brand hatred.
I'm not a person who keeps grudges, or hates things in general. I just take note what companies do, and change my choices based on my observation. VAG also took a good hit after their dieselgate scandal, and not recovered much in my mind, for example. Stellantis is also not doing well, and I was considering a vehicle from them, so I'm not so sure anymore.
I don't live in a flat city, of course I'm worried and aware of my brakes all times, and know how to condition and refresh my brakes.
My problem is Tesla's service policies, like ignoring "recommended" checks on a car. Oh sorry, I can go to an independent mechanic to further spend my non-existing time, you're right.
What's more interesting is Tesla not having brake pad thickness warnings, which our old 1999 Fiat Tipo had.
Being apologetic about problems doesn't make your arguments any more sound, either.
No. You are obviously not doing that. You take note of what the media emphasizes in an obvious press campaign that oversimplifies the actual information to a degree where it becomes borderline useless in order to reach political goals. This is not the same.
> You take note of what the media emphasizes in an obvious press campaign that oversimplifies the actual information to a degree where it becomes borderline useless in order to reach political goals.
No, I'm not doing that. To be frank, my exposure to cars, engines and related technology goes back 30+ years,. I'm not naive enough to read a single article and change my mind about Tesla, "because Elon bad, so Tesla bad".
I'm not someone who sees his car as a black box. I can diagnose, disassemble and service my car to a certain degree (and recently did that by logging weeks of data from ECU because my mechanic was not able to pinpoint the problem, and I diagnosed the problem myself). I'm also not afraid or refrain from getting my hands dirty.
If something, this article I have read is a literal drop in a bucket of things I have read only about Tesla. My information consumption about cars is increased again recently, because I'm planning to buy something new, but I'm already familiar what I might be getting under the bonnet with every choice I make.
So, you're projecting your assumptions onto me, and not only your assumptions are wrong, what you're doing is also wrong.
If that's the case, then please cite reliable sources about the exact issues that occur and what Tesla did or did not do to mitigate them or let them slip.
If you'd have those, you could have posted them earlier here in the thread.
First, I don't keep bookmarks of everything I read, second I can't record conversations I've had with people owning cars I'm interested in and store them in publicly accessible places.
I understand that we will not be able to meet somewhere in the middle. Also, I'm not someone who'd leave personal opinions and experiences to appease and please someone.
So, have a nice day. Hope your cars never break down and give you infinite joy.
Let's play your game, then. The URL contains a list of links I have found in my browser and YouTube history, mostly about Tesla, in 20 minutes. I especially searched for Tesla, since this is what we're talking about.
Moreover, I failed to find some of the links I wanted to add, which were more positive ones about Tesla, nonetheless (e.g.: the famous consultancy which gutted a Model S and found very good engineering alongside some rookie mistakes).
Now, this is your turn to provide me information about how I'm mislead, and what Tesla does instead. Waiting a similar links trove from you, since you claim that you're very knowledgeable about the subject matter.
If you translate the article and read it, you will find that there are a lot of reported issues with the headlights. It is hard to find exact information on the actual issue in detail, but I'd suspect it's about the calibration of the headlights in most cases. That's a minor issue and calling it a reliability problem doesn't seem accurate. Also quite conveniently, they don't really mention that Teslas have significantly more mileage on average than other electric cars when they have their first TÜV visit. It's common for the German press to blow things like these out of proportion when they don't like a brand.
I think the German car industry and the press around it as a whole have a serious corruption issue.
I am sure HN has made up their mind already and this discussion wouldn't have an effect on your opinion anyway, so please feel free to continue downvoting.
> you will find that there are a lot of reported issues with the headlights.
Correct, but you just happen to leave out the mentioned issues with the brakes and axles as clearly stated in the article.
> In addition to defects in the brakes and axles, the Tesla also has a particularly high number of lighting defects.
If you want to point out issues, which is absolutely fair, please don't cherry-pick.
> but I'd suspect it's about the calibration of the headlights in most cases
So its a guess on your part. Lightning defects can mean any number of things.
>Defects in the lighting such as defective bulbs, broken or blind lenses or incorrect adjustment are significant defects.
Incorrect adjustments are part of it, yes, but if that's the case I would argue something with the construction of Tesla's lamps is not done correctly. Other manufacturers seem to have fewer problems. That or Tesla owners don't service their cars often enough. Regardless, it guessing on our part unless we have access to detailed data.
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You linked to an article that is over 10 years old. Besides that, ADAC, which that particular piece is about, is not the company responsible for doing the TÜV inspection, nor is it the one to actually publish the report.
> I think the German car industry and the press around it as a whole have a serious corruption issue.
The car industry I can agree on. The emissions scandal is a particularly shady example. As for the press, I'd take a more neutral stance. There are absolutely a large amount of low quality news papers and magazines pumping out hot garbage. Others do offer much higher quality writing and research.
Look, HN people don't like Tesla. A lot of German people in positions of power don't like Tesla. Suddenly an article appears that explicitly highlights Tesla vehicles as not passing TÜV because they allegedly have quality issues. The article mentions no details. If you search for details on Google, you get a list of very similar looking articles all citing the same statement from a TÜV person. None of those provide any details on the actual issues. If no details are provided, the only thing to do is guess.
It's really quite clear what's going on here.
The TÜV does not assess the reliability of a car. The reasons for a car failing an inspection after 3 years can be manifold. It doesn't mean that the car "won't age well" or anything along those lines.
If you dislike Tesla, then say it - it's fine. No need to support vague smear campaigns.
In fact, right now Tesla has the best electric car technology available on the market. Along with the best charging network available on the market. And the best software (light years ahead of the competition) on the market. Also they don't require you to service the car for a long time. That makes German people especially afraid that they lose their car manufacturing, selling and servicing business. And rightly so. No smear campaign and no comparing apples to oranges will save them from reforming and restoring their competitiveness in a very long painful process.
What do you mean suddenly? The report is released every year. There's nothing mysterious about news pages, especially those related to cars, writing articles about a yearly report.
The article mentions no in-depth detail because it is an excerpt from the full report which you are free to purchase and read if you would like more information.
The reason Tesla gets mentioned is twofold: electric cars have been a topic of discussion in Germany for quite some time and the failure rate of Tesla Model 3s is significantly higher than other comparable cars.
I don't know why you have it in your head that this is some big conspiracy by Big Car TM.
Yes, TÜV does not assess reliability of a car, but road-worthiness. Evidently something that Tesla has a larger problem with than other manufacturers. I don't know why, nor do I claim to.
I don't care about Tesla. Neither do I care about VW or any other manufacturer for that matter. They are profit oriented companies that are selling you a product.
> In fact, right now Tesla has the best electric car technology available on the market.
By what measure exactly? The best isn't a measure and as of right now a subjective statement.
> Along with the best charging network available on the market.
Again, subjective. What do you mean by best? The amount of chargers? The cost/kWh? Location? And what market exactly?
> And the best software (light years ahead of the competition) on the market.
Again, subjective. You complain about an article having no detail, then make statements praising Tesla as the best electric car but provide 0 evidence or numbers.
Just because you like something, doesn't mean I have to as well. I'm not a mechanical/electrical engineer so I cannot speak to their car technology or reliability. I do know their software, because I drove one for work reasons for 3 months. You might like it and get along fine with it, I don't.
I didn't buy a Tesla because their choice to start placing all functionality into the touch screen is counterintuitive to the whole point of the car: getting me safely from point A to B. Other manufacturers, including VW are horrendous at this as well. I didn't buy a car from them either.
> Also they don't require you to service the car for a long time.
Given the percentage of their cars failing the inspection, perhaps they should.
And yet Tesla has industry leading brand loyalty, what do you think is a better predictor, an opaque number computed by Consumer Reports from an unknown formula that combines feedback about non reliability items from users who bother to respond to consumer reports questions, or what 87% of consumers decide after experiencing a Tesla?
Surely the problem lies in a high variance in the production of later models.
Like when you visit a stellar restaurant and come back years later to realize the magic sauce was a chef who left.
Also, yes, it sounds risky to buy a car without being able to drive it back when it immediately breaks. I can also see myself as a victim of that because of experiences like yours and mine: Teslas are the most purchased EVs, they're everywhere, surely you'd know if their reputation is tarnished for other reasons than the mascot being unpopular.
They do have less panel gaps and other minor flaws, because the people putting them together in Germany actually care (and have unions and proper working hours so they're not exhausted).
I am not sure how much unions are present in German Tesla factories. They are certainly very present in every other German car factory. Tesla does not accept unions. In Sweden, which is unionized to a higher degree than Germany, Tesla's service (no factory there) is in continuous labor conflict with Tesla who thinks they can act as irresponsibly as their owner.
Audi costs easily 2x for abysmal specs and reliability. Kia/Hyundai is better deal, but they are such bare cars it's almost like driving 90s Toyota. Spec them out to base Tesla (i.e. power seats, power liftgate, heated steering wheel, etc) and price is 1.5x higher.
if you drove them you would say otherwise. I have Tesla S and Audi eTron, price comparable ($90k) while the difference is like between a Harley and Vespa.
and I am the least Tesla “fan” on the planet and think Elon is the saddest person that ever lived on this planet
it's a known problem with 2024 models, the article points to that. So while tesla may be aware of it, the public unconscious might not be (like the author wasn't), as its a new-ish, and frankly absurd problem to have.
I meant to say: I think the quality varies both per factory and over time.
There's a lot of complexity in industrial production. From the outside it looks like there's only the classic and the revamped design., but I've heard that the internal components are often far from the same.
"first gen" Model 3s didn't have an emergency rear door release for when the electrical one failed. they've since added that to more recent generations.
but- a car company that doesn't see the need to have emergency rear door releases has systemic issues. someone, anyone involved in approving that design could have said "no. i will not sign off on this", but they didn't.
it makes me wonder what other corners they cut, and whether those cut corners could kill a driver or passenger- because they're not going to cut corners on anything that would be immediately apparent in daily use: it would be detrimental to sales.
Removing the ultrasonic parking sensors was a downgrade, but removing the radar wasn't. The vision stack was consistently superior to the radar at the time they stopped including them; today it's leagues ahead. Even if you have an older Tesla with a radar sensor, it's been disabled in software because the camera-derived data is so much better.
The scary thing about radar is how terrible the raw data is, and how utterly compromised the filtered data is. Stationary objects have to get substantially filtered out when driving at high speeds, otherwise false positives would be unacceptably common. This affects all brands of car with radar.
This shouldn't be surprising. Subaru managed to jank together Eyesight using a couple of cameras and an in-house team, and they were able to make it outperform radar in most respects. Unfortunately they didn't think to make it self-calibrating, so it requires a trip to the dealership any time you replace the windscreen.
You are replying to an anecdotal blog post to say that a comment that is just an anecdote is not a useful contribution?
You think it's useful to have a blog post to reveal the shocking truth that mass manufactured products aren't 100% reliable? A lemon could be produced by any auto manufacturer and the customer could have the same experience
> Second: when you buy a car, do you ask yourself, how will I fix it in case anything goes wrong? Buying a car in a country where there's no service is a huge no-no.
From middle of Slovakia to Budapest, Hungary is as far as Houston to Austin drive. No border or customs controls. Vehicle insurance issued in one, is valid in both. You only have to spend few euros to buy a vignette (road toll). I don't see your point.
Well, that's a valid point, but if you look at e.g. Poland, even that there are three repair centers there, there are places in there that are much (2x) further away from a service center than the drive from Slovakia to Budapest.
One thing I don't understand is why the author doesn't just use the legal provisions of statutory warranty. Any cost of delivering the faulty items to the seller are on the seller, not the buyer, in Europe in general.
The Musk aspect is pertinent in the respect that he's mythologised for his innovation in Tesla and SpaceX while his detractors state that he merely bought into innovative companies, and they had to actively manage him to minimise his interference.
So in one view, he is indeed the guru of legend, and is responsible for the successes of Tesla and SpaceX, so a good candidate to refactor the federal government.
However, if he's responsible for their success, he's responsible for their failure. And this is a massive failure in manufacturing, in quality control, in after-sales service, and in just plain ol customer service.
But, if he's just a canny investor and his best companies succeed by insulating the company from him, then why the fuck is he touching the federal govt systems?
As for "buying a car in a country with no service" - the parts shortage looks to be global, so local market wouldn't help that.
"has the author tried a tesla before buying one? I'd never buy a car without trying it" This reads like gaslighting, trying out a car that works and getting one that doesn't wouldn't have changed their outcome.
I too have the opposite experience. I've had my late 2022 Tesla Model Y and I like it just as much as I did on day one. In fact I like it more now, since the car has received several new, big features after lots of software updates.
I live within 15 miles of two Tesla centres, and so far I've only had to use them once for a minor sensor issue, which was serviced at my property at no cost to me. If I didn't have any Tesla centres within a couple hours' drive I probably wouldn't have bought the car.
I think a "roadmap" should be also provided on how to learn this topic in a guided way. Also, some captions would be useful: what does it mean "model development"? Why "vector databases" ? What is "LLM Automation" ? What should I click first if I am a complete newbie ?
I am not the Lazy programmer nor the owner of this website, but titular Lazy Programmer has developed several roadmaps of the courses they offer for those who wish to learn AI/ML. You don't necessarily have to take their courses, but you can glean the topics of the courses from their titles and get a good idea of what you need to know.
Yes, this is a must! A newbies-focused roadmap would differentiate it from other linksites.
Newbies would benefit tremendously if they can grasp every keyword, and not get overwhelmed. This site could really be the starter platform of every AI enthusiast.
12 years of software development and I still love to write code! I consider myself a full stack engineer with a natural predisposition for frontend. In my last job adventures I've been working in adtech (I was also contriburtor for Prebid.JS), for Swiss and US companies. Javascript, NodeJS, Typescript and React currently are my main languages/frameworks, but I've also developed stuff with Python, Php/Laravel, and long time ago Java.
I wouldn't mind a journey in the mobile apps world, for example with React Native or going natively into iOS/Android, if you are willing to open the doors of such things to a curious developer.
I wrote an article on my blog on how to move photos from google photos to Synology, if you're the kind of guy that wants to host things on a NAS: https://michelenasti.com/from-google-photos-to-synology-phot...
There's also a way to overcome the 500 photos limit (using google backup options).
Nice write up. I’m currently in the process of moving all my photos into my new Synology NAS. I can see that you prefer the terminal, but the downloading could be performed via the download station and the copying of the files via the file manager/explorer. This way the whole procedure would be more user friendly to novice users ;-)
