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I've added a few updates on the original post, but there's no fix yet: https://hey.paris/posts/appleid/

Feel free to chat to me on Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/hey.paris) or Mastodon (https://cloudisland.nz/@parisba) or email if you have ideas. I've received nearly 500 emails!


Whatever you’re quoting isn’t about me, the OP in this case…

I prefer to keep it topped up like that. It's been the same for 20 years.


These retailers have a problem with gift card fraud.


What’s the basis for your preference?


Let's hope so...


It's Saturday. Executives might get phone calls to make it happen on a Sunday, but I wouldn't bet on it.

I have spoken verbally to multiple members of Apple's support teams. Apologies if that was unclear. I didn't record this calls, as they did not permit me to.


Then continue that. It’s definitely a fraud detection lockout due to probably the retailer not properly registering the gift cards or something similar.

If you can’t iforgot.apple.com, then support is your only option. No one else has access. Only Apple Support.

You have a case number, keep calling every 12 hours asking for an update.


You don't need their permission to record the call if they are recording the call already.


I live in Tasmania, a state of Australia that is 1) an island, and 2) has no Apple Stores.


"and yet didn't bother to swim to the nearest Apple store"


It's been done, a few days ago. Nothing yet, but here's hoping.


Good. Don't be afraid to follow up if they drag their feet. Be respectful but persistent. I'm sorry this is happening to you. It's a shitty feeling.


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That's an unhelpful and unnecessarily nasty comment. Millions and millions and millions of people trust Apple. Whether you agree or not, to say they "deserve" something like this for doing what any normal person on this earth would do (and is marketed-at to do) is obnoxious.


"deserve" is an unnecessarily harsh word, but I'd be lying if I said you weren't courting fate. The day iCloud is revealed to be a FVEY racket, I won't feel pity for the users.

The more you try to bury the truth, the worse it will be when uncovered.


I would like to think you're wrong, but if they fix this, you're possibly right. My career is built on Apple technologies. I don't love that I'm captured by a vendor, but I have a lot of knowledge, and building to that level elsewhere is hard.

I just want to keep using my stuff, and getting on with the fun things I get to work on. I don't have a strong attachment to Apple, I have a strong attachment to the familiar productivity I normally have.


Even if you helped and this is fixed, consider the privileged situation you are in to even get this fixed. Most "normal" people would be doomed to lose their entire digital life. Evangelizing for a Megacorp is dooming more people into willing incompetence and dependency.

Reconsider at least that part. You can work with and use their products (as I do at work with the GSuite or AWS) but I will never recommend or evangelize for them or rely on them with things I care about.


Totally agree.


Absolutely, but that doesn't solve my immediate issue of my devices and accounts, but of course I will do that.


There are escalative methods to employ in such situations.

In many legal jurisdictions, a 'demand letter' holds weight. These can be served by courier, with proof of delivery as valid. One aspect of such a letter is a hard, specific time by which you will start legal action, along with associated additional costs.

You have two paths after the letter. The first is small claims court, or normal court. In many places, small claims court does not allow lawyers, and the judge will even have to explain any confusing terms.

Which means the playing is leveled, including reduced or no disclosure requirements, and legal cost assignments. Where I am, it's $100 to file.

The goal is to force a fix, at threat of legal consequences.

I am sending an email.


"Beat the Grass to Startle the Snake" (打草惊蛇)

You would be better off in the US. Trust me, nothing creates bigger fuzz than complaining to financial authorities.


From the fire into the frying pan.


It appears that the only way to reach Apple Customer Relations is by way of writing a formal letter to:

Apple Pty Ltd, PO Box A2629, Sydney South NSW 1235


I do have backups of most data, including photos, but there are things you can't backup like shared actively edited iWork documents, and things like that. I can rebuild from it, but it's still a shitshow and my very expensive devices are bricked.


What a nightmare - hope everything will end well.

Concerning all those 'bricked' devices it would be really nice to get some more details concerning the 'block'.

Can you use your iPhone to call someone, can you use your MacBook overall? Login, use Apple Passwords(!), looking at photos within photos app and so on...

Or are all those devices completely locked?


> there are things you can't backup like shared actively edited iWork documents

If they’re shared, surely someone else can still access them?


Apple (via Executive Relations) says they won't do anything. Guess I'm stuffed.

What's an iWord and why can't it be backed up?


Nobody said iWord.


My apologies, I see I've misread it. Still don't know what iWork is. Surely what the question referred to was obvious

Here, I Googled it for you https://www.apple.com/iwork/

Oh, so I did understand correctly that it's Apple's version of Word etc.

My question was why one can't back up one's data though. I'm even more confused now that I know it refers to Pages/Keynote/etc. since those have always been file-based so far as I've seen from classmates who used it. Surely even Apple allows downloading your documents and spreadsheets from whatever storage front-end their live editing server uses?


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