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> I have personally witnessed it myself. I have countless Indian friend who are candid with me. They are biased against whole communities. Blacks, Muslims, etc.

So are Americans. People are going to bring their biases. If you are serious about this, start vetting all immigrants about thier biases or racism. Are you saying Cubans or Latinos don't bring their own racism? Or other Europeans didn't do it? Why is this cherry-picking going on?


As an IT worker, I honestly don't see many/any Cubans and Latinos in my day to day.

However I do see a ton, and I mean a ton of Indians and their hiring practices. Hence why I started my sentence with "I have personally witnessed it"


Considering how weirdly hostile you are, there's a much simpler explanation: you can't hide your contempt and it's creeping people out.


American immigration has functioned this way for years. Where do you think Little Italy or the Greek sections of town originated? This is how immigrants have behaved for centuries, it's not exclusively a phenomenon among people of color. European immigrants did the same thing and continue to do so. If you mention a street name in NYC to some longtime New Yorkers, they can tell you which community or immigrant group is known to live in that area.

What ultimately matters is whether immigrants are law-abiding and contribute to the local economy. Indians rarely appear in crime statistics and generally comprise part of the highest-earning immigrant demographics.


You are essentially saying “this has been a problem for other people in the past also, so we cannot consider it a problem when it happens today”. That does not seem like a strong argument to me…


No I am basically saying it's human nature - sticking to their own group, having biases, being racist. You were trying to make it some kind of Indian trait. We can always try to fight against all the creeping racism and biases, legally and lawfully, without targeting certain group.

Suddenly every immigrant has to be this pristine model minority which has never been the case. That's why I gave those examples. People will find ways to target immigrants no matter what. This kind of narrative I see popping up everywhere where people don't like immigrants. This isn't even US specific.

The goalpost keeps shifting from legal, law-abiding immigrants to they better assimilate, say nothing bad or we are going to create policies which actively target some group based on how a particular government feels about them.


How was I trying to make it some kind of Indian thing? The topic is H1Bs, and this instance of the problem, which as you point out is general, involves Indians. It’s not as if I singled out Indians artificially.

I do separately think there is a risk that what worked reasonably well when combining all Europeans may not work when combining all humans. There is no historical example to look at to go “oh yeah that does work fine in the long run”. At a completely abstract level, what we have been doing since the ‘60s is an experiment (combine all humans) that is different from the one we started with on this continent (combine all Europeans). Just because the first one worked doesn’t mean the second one will, right? Even if we ran the first one again from scratch, maybe we got lucky the first time, for all we know maybe that scenario only succeeds 10% of the time. Should we be at all cautious here, or is this just terrible evil heresy talk?


Most of Scandinavia is rife with old money. It's just that new entrants aren't allowed to build wealth.

https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/04/01/wealth-inequali...


This article seems to argue that the cause of the inequality is the lack of taxes


Yes! It basically means you go full on freelance or just stay put with whatever job you have. I wanted to try freelancing before I quite my full time job but it's not that easy legally.


I am a bit confused why you think it is not easy. In fact you have the right to reduce your hours from full time to part time if your company employs more than 15 people. So you can easily make time for a freelancing job on the side.

Also you don't really need to track your hours when freelancing other than maybe for billing purposes so you really don't need to worry about hours anyway. Generally you are considered part-time self-employed when doing less than 18 hours per week.

Earning a bit on the side is really not an issue in Germany. In fact the combination of having a part time employed job and then doing freelancing is very popular.

What doesn't work is being full time employed at two companies but that would make no sense even if you could as you would earn much less and pay insane taxes.


> In fact you have the right to reduce your hours from full time to part time if your company employs more than 15 people.

Having the right and your employer agreeing to it isn't the same. Do you want people to go to the court if the employer denies it with the risk of losing the job?


Although you fall sick more often in winter when using public transportation.


Is that a rigorous statistical analysis or just your impression?


It was instrumental in spreading COVID[1]. Also found to be the case with other airborne diseases[2]

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8552583/

[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6280530/


Some people actually try these things... And not writing an academic paper about it doesn't make it wrong.


Not writing an academic paper about it doesn't make it right either. This is the problem, when it's just hearsay, the rest of us have nothing to judge its accuracy with.

When looking at something as complex as people's behaviour, then it's worth allowing for seasonal variations in public transport use (e.g. when it's raining people may decide to get the bus rather than walk). Could it be related to the length of their journeys and/or their net worth? (There's a strong correlation between health and wealth). How does it compare to a similar section of the population that drive or cycle instead?


You can look into it yourself. This is a web forum, not university.

I don't understand how are your questions going to answer anything anyways - it's not like the answer is going to be the same anywhere.


I did interview for them and got rejected. The job was interesting but should consider myself lucky that I didn't get it.


Yeah I was in the same boat coming from classical ML. I am just doing MLOps/DE these days. Although I have been down levelled to almost junior level after having 10+ years of experience. Struggling a bit with being treated like a junior again! Much less autonomy to pick my own task.


I'm going through a similar transition right now. I wouldn't say I've been downleveled but I left FAANG to go to a startup (pay cut) where I've been able to transition pretty fluidly from "Data Science" to "MLOps + some backend SWE + some infra + some actual ML Engineering (non-DL)". Aside from the pay cut (which was not the end of the world, think high 200s to low 200s), it's worked out very well, and I'm getting the experience that I think will allow me to rebrand successfully.

As to whether that rebrand itself is successful, I don't know. It feels like the DS role is undergoing a maturation where different skillsets are being cleaved into different roles. I was always a more natural fit for the Ops side, I don't have the academic creds for a research-oriented position. But I'm not sure how much of ops means "LLM ops".


Wherever the pay is proportionally lower. If people are making 1500 bucks then charging them 2000 won't work.


They could have just gone to Switzerland and Germany would have been nearby! Also you get Germand and French speakers! So easy to jump between France and Germany.


Switzerland is a lot more expensive, though.


I don't think people understood the joke since they might not know what Rundfunkbeitrag is!

Everyone outside of German has to face death and taxes. In Germany you face death, taxes and Rundfunkbeitrag.


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