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sr.ht does that

I don’t find it very user friendly (well, at all), but if you want a git forge that does that, you can use it.


This is my experience as well. I love the hacker culture associated with it and it's very fun to use e.g. Mutt, sr.ht, and git-send-email together, but it's anything but efficient and straightforward. I ultimately moved away from sr.ht for that reason.


Some, like myself, find the mouse really painful to use and hate graphical interfaces when you have to randomly click to find something (while you can read a man page, grep through it and then automatize the process in custom scripts).

But it is not only about efficiency. It is about control and centralisation.

Git-send-mail works everywhere there’s an email. It allows people to use the tool they prefer. It allows them to build custom tools. It doesn’t make people dependent from a forge (you are a simple "git remote set-url" away from using a new forge).

Github forces everybody to use the same graphical interface which requires tons of JS and lot of CPU. Github forces you to accept all their changes. Github forces you to be a slave of Microsoft and contribute all your code to their IA training set. Github forces you to be notificed of stuff you don’t care.

The "Hacker culture" is first and foremost about personal freedom. And if you believe the tool are not efficient, as a true hacker, you will built others (but, spoiler, most of the time, when you become proficient enough to build you own tools, you realize how efficient the existing ones are).

Hacking is like walking. You look at walkers and you think it looks tiring to walk. So you go to the parking lot. You start your car. You go through the gate and give your driver license to the cop controlling you. You then go to the gas station. You pay with you credit card. There’s an accident in front of you, you are stuck in the traffic. You take your Google controlled GPS and ask for another itinerary. You drive. You wait at a red light, looking at your phone. A notification to pay the insurance of the car. Another one to pay for the leasing of the car itself. A light blink on the dashboard: you need to add oil and do the annual checkup of the car. You drive, you are a bit stressed and go too fast. You see a flash. Shit! Will I get a ticket? I was not that fast? You arrive at destination. There’s no room left in the parking. You start to drive around, hoping for a spot. There! You get it. It is bit small. You hope that nobody will scratch your car. For whatever reason, you learned that cars can’t be scratched so you are very careful. You get out of the car and walk a bit to the destination. Then you see them… The walkers. They went here by foot, through a path in the forest. They are smiling, even if they was some light rain.

And you ask them:

"Why don’t you guys get a car? Seriously? Walking is hard and inefficient. I can’t walk myself for than 1km before getting my legs sore."


> … GitHub forces you to be a slave of Microsoft … Relax, the hyperbole is out of control here. I use GitHub and am certainly not a slave.


I think the value of alternate communication systems is not to be underestimated. And bravo for recalling the heartfelt connection between personal freedom and hacker culture! You are certainly "walking the walk!" :)


I really don't disagree with you at all. I also don't like GitHub anymore nor have I ever liked Microsoft (see my last few comments on HN on recent threads, in fact).

I don't blame anyone for using it either, just didn't fit my personal workflow like mouse-based doesn't fit yours.


This is honestly the best analogy.


I contributed to a project using this, once. I decided that unless I’m highly invested, it’s just not worth the hassle.


This site seems to be made by Drew DeVault who also runs sourcehut.


Didn’t notice that.

But makes sense.


that reminds me of the famous “don’t anthropomorphize Larry Ellison” talk

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5170246


this “assault on senses” is normal in these Chinese/Asian shopping apps, even the more “standard” ones. I know more the SEA ones than Chinese ones but they are all like this.

I don’t know who likes it, but it obviously works, as everyone over there is doing it.


It reminds me of the sensory overload of casino slot machines.

Makes my head explode, and I just walk away. But many people just can't. The overload is a rush for them.


Funnily enough, literally the previous article from the same series praises Margaret Thatcher.

Lol.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/how-the-ownership-re...


Specifically in the context of privatization.

I see that as orthogonal to this article


I was as shocked as you, but then I remember, the paleo-conservative right doesn’t like big tech as they are seeing them as censors.


Which is of course really weird given the history of big tech, Facebook in particular, serving as a distribution channel for right-wing bullshit. The internet in general served as an incubator for all sorts of right-wing stuff that found it difficult to find purchase in broader society.

Being down-voted by people who deny the reality of fake news about Hillary Clinton even though many of us saw it with our own eyes, and who deny the existence of places like 4Chan. Deny the existence of reporting about Facebook's role in propagating content that led to genocide in Burma (their right-wingers do what ours can only dream of), etc.


There is a gradient, I think

I’m fine with for example cooking lobsters or prawns and other seafood that needs to be basically cooked alive. Because they are less sentient and less closer to human. I’m not fine with cooking chicken alive. There is a grey area about eating dogs and cats. I am generally fine with that, other people aren’t.

Monkeys are closer to human.

I think some amount of experimentation is necessary and can be good for science experiments. Monkeys are not human after all, never will be; but they are close.

I think excessive and useless experiments are bad.

But there is a gradient and I guess it’s hard to define. I don’t think sacrificing one monkey is evil. I also don’t think that needlessly torturing it is fine. There are gradients.

You can’t make parallel with experiments on human in 2nd world war though; that is a mockery of those people actually tortured back then. Saying that they are on monkey level

(I am not who you are replying to)


> I’m fine with for example cooking lobsters or prawns and other seafood that needs to be basically cooked alive

Just want to point out here: No, they don't need to be cooked alive. The human way to cook lobster is to run a knife through its head first. But most people don't have the stomach for this and choose to believe that boiling it alive is more humane.


I honestly didn’t know that, thanks for telling me.

However shrimps do need to be cooked alive, right?


No. Have you never seen frozen shrimp available in the store?


why can’t they just give them oculus pro glasses and make them meet in horizon?


see: flowtype by facebook.

I think it died out because no javascript dev wanted to learn OCaml.


You didn't need Ocaml to use Flow, and it's not like the average Typescript/Flow dev ever looks at the source code of Typescript/Flow, let alone contributes to it.

Flow died out because it focused on things that JS devs didn't care about – speed and correctness. The latter especially came at the expense of annoyance: Flow tended to throw errors when you used code patterns with unprovable correctness, whereas Typescript happily "compiled" such patterns without checking their correctness. That was a "good enough" improvement over plain Javascript, and it easily won, being a more established community, and with more support from Microsoft than Flow ever got from Facebook.


> The Closure Compiler is so much more than just "JavaScript but with types". It also provides minification, provided a namespacing system, additional standard library and such.

That’s literally what the article is about if you read a few sentences more


Ok, maybe take that up with the article author that they're being inconsistent then?


"Similar", not "exactly identical in every regard".


What a fascinating article.

I never knew about these treasure hunts - and while I am not at all the type to get into it, the background with all the backstabbing and all the people going wild is fascinating. Both this and the Masquerade case.


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