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>The reason the left wants immigration is because they overwhelmingly vote left.

This is extermely narrow-sighted and very uncharitable, and fails to explain the radical left's stance on immigration, given that very few immigrants vote for, say, the Communist party.

>Nowhere along the line does anybody care about why people want to be here - it's not their concern.

And that's what I'm saying the problem is. People have very little foresight such that instead of trying to implement a much more effective solution to this perceived threat to "cultural and national identity" they just say "let's build a wall".

It does not fix the material conditions that lead to immigration. The wall crumbles. People are still getting in, because they want to get in. If those people really cared about their culture so much, they would be willing to help address the cause of immigration.

At the very least, it's a shoddy hack designed to plug a big hole. And this is where we are now; 'the right' wants to use a poorly thought out hack out of narrow self-interest. Because apparently the only humans who matter are those on this side of the line in the sand.



The "material conditions" that lead to illegal immigration in the US are lax enforcement of immigration and labor laws. If we had enforced our laws from the beginning, it would not be a problem. The solution then, is to enforce the laws we have, and remove their incentive to be here, not to go over there and make their country better. We have our own country to make great (again!).

>Because apparently the only humans who matter are those on this side of the line in the sand.

Everyone has a right to act in their best interests. Charity is never obligatory.


>The "material conditions" that lead to illegal immigration in the US are lax enforcement of immigration and labor laws.

These are material conditions, but they do not cover all immigration, so they are insufficient. The bigger material conditions are namely that people want to live better lives, and they think that they can do so in "better" countries like the US.

>and remove their incentive to be here

This is what I am talking about. You must fix the material conditions, which means that you must either (i) make your own country worse or (ii) make others better. Why not do the second?

>We have our own country to make great (again!).

America has always been founded on capitalist exploitation. It never was 'great'.

>Everyone has a right to act in their best interests.

Sure, and it's in your best interest to fix the material conditions for immigration if you don't like immigration.

>Charity is never obligatory.

That's true, but it seems very selfish to not care about the fate of others, simply beacuse they were born somewhere else.




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