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Why do you think that people are being sterilized in a camp at the border at which people are not allowed the right for a trial, did not commit any crimes, and are not allowed to leave? Seriously, I'm hoping there is an explanation that is less horrific.


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The US has been systematically sterilizing indigenous populations up until the 70s. Why do you think we did that? If we're willing to get sordid, there are definitely reasons to do so; maiming people at the border sends a strong message to would-be asylum seekers, for one. For another, there are people in ICE with strong white supremacist tendencies. We have camps right now where people are not allowed a fair trial, and are not allowed to leave. This is very, very, very fucked.

And no, they don't get any compensation for anything. They don't have a US bank account. They are detainees in a weird legal limbo, without any legal status in the US. Why not read the document in the article?

In any case, if you have a better explanation, I'm all ears. But it really doesn't compute here.


I think a better explanation is that this is a doctor who specializes in hysterectomies and who recommends hysterectomies whenever that isn't outright malpractice, because it's a routine procedure and it pays relatively well.

This isn't uncommon practice. Hysterectomies often aren't strictly necessary, just like tonsillectomies, back surgeries or hip replacements.

There is no evidence for this really being "masses" of women, or that any of these procedures were entirely unjustified, or that any of this is happening systematically.


>I honestly don't know what to say to someone who thinks the USA is systematically sterilising people.

You should consider that it's possible, rather than accusing that person of essentially being insane. If they were claiming that the US population was being sterilized by something the federal government puts in the water, then sure. But surgical sterilization in these conditions does not require an Illuminati level of conspiracy, and it's over simplistic and dismissive to imply that it does.


> I honestly don't know what to say to someone who thinks the USA is systematically sterilising people.

Unfortunately, there appears to be evidence of it. :(

eg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#Unite...

That's just a starting point, as it contains both historical info through to the last few years. It gives plenty of references to investigate further though, in case that's of interest.


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Hang on. You made out that you don't believe the US has done forced sterilisations. But then respond that it's something you learned about in high school?

eg you've literally learned this stuff has happened in the US before, but you can't believe there are people around doing it now?


> Do you say it because of true stories we know about the past and are are taught history repeats itself. Do you think it's true on rote?

I asked why from true stories from the past you would apply it to the current day to this situation.

With stating factoids, you still have to think how it applies.

When have hysterectomies been used for sterilisation?


we have a limited set of evidence and hysterectomies are one recent example. we just might know facts about other hospitals at this point. do you honestly expect the government to be an stellar example of transparency when it comes to forced sterilization??

you seem to think there are other explanations. care to share?


> Who would be doing this? Why? How?

Maybe for the same expressed reason they separated children from their parents? Deterrence (which does not work), and sadism (unstated, but obvious).




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