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Tell HN: Helping with a slow Win10? Maybe OneDrive deleted local files
1 point by matkoniecz on Feb 9, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 4 comments
I just run into it yesterday and I was not really expecting it so I thought that it would share if anyone helps family or friends with their computer

- someone had horribly slow Windows (opening folder with photos has not completed after several minutes) - no typical signs of a malware or other infestation otherwise - OneDrive asking to be "upgraded" (which went straight to payment form)

Turns out that Windows was uploading local files to Microsoft servers (OneDrive). User was not aware about this, presumably it appeared in way similar how most people end with Microsoft account during installation.

In addition it turned that OneDrive deleted local files. User was definitely not aware about that.

So someone opening folder with photos - was downloading them from server. No idea who thought that it would be better than simply mirroring files. Opening folders was slow because user was waiting for download of GBs of data.

Attempts to change configuration were without any feedback or noticeable change. Linux would at give cryptic but searchable error.

Uninstalling OneDrive resulted in Windows stopping to pretend that local files are there.

At least message asking for OneDrive subscription, appearing every 30s, was also gone.

After that it was necessary to download files from OneDrive. Which failed in the middle of download twice and was rate limited to 250 KB/s by Microsoft server. Which makes idea "lets delete GBs of files locally and download them when user opens folder" even worse.

I guess that the entire idea was invented to push OneDrive subscriptions (many people will simply pay as popup demanded) but who though that deleting local files is a good idea?

Also, it is not just one person who did something weird, it happened to multiple. So I guess that it is one more thing to be aware while helping with horribly slow Windows and one more dark pattern to look out for.

BTW, it is really sad that "Linux PC becoming more usable than Windows PC" is driven recently mostly by Windows becoming worse.

Also, that is how "lets give family member external hard drive and help with backup making as a gift" turned out to be 1h of investigation and several of waiting rather than 5 minutes of copying.



Presumably local files are deleted because most users nowadays are laptop/mobile users with limited local storage

Not sure why your downloads are so slow I'm able to get 20MB/s

I noticed another possible cause of slow file access on Windows is long file path names exceeding 160 characters


OneDrive is limited to 5GB by default, for nonpaying users.

All payment models would make upgrading laptop SSD vastly cheaper. While making it much faster even with 20MB/s download being consistently achieved and always available.


I'm referring to tablet/laptop hybrids with soldered storage like Surface Pro where storage options are only available at time of purchase and cost hundreds extra for an additional 128-512GB. By the time a high storage model pays off over cloud storage, your battery would probably be dead and you'd need a new device anyways.

If you have a device with upgradable storage slots, then you're probably a power user and presumably you wouldn't even store your data in the cloud (other than an extra backup)


OK, for tablets it would make sense if they operate with continuous high-speed connection to OneDrive not throttled by Microsoft.

Not for laptops, not for devices which are sometimes offline, not for devices without high-speed link to OneDrive.




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