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If useful, here’s an answer: The Suzuki DR-Z400S/SM motorcycle. As one example.

It’s not a car! I know! The thing is that motorcycles are such good learning platforms. They’re small, man-portable (in a pinch), there’s almost everything in there that’s in a car – but much less of it and more accessible. Single-cylinder motorcycles are also good for learning because there’s only one cylinder and one set of valves and one cylinder or fuel injector etc. :) One of everything and everything is smaller and more easily accessible than in a car. In short they’re very hackable machines.

The DR-Z400 is reliable, ubiquitous and cheap. Parts are available. Lots of DIY information out there and easy to find.

I knew NOTHING about cars. Got the motorcycle bug. A DR-Z400S was the most bike for the money here. Bought it. And that’s how I got into this by accident.

Now I know how to swap out a carburator for a bigger one and tune it, tune suspension behavior by simulating the hydraulic valving inside the suspension, maintain brakes, replace tires and pick them for what road feel I want, fix flats on the side of the road, fix a stator if I need to, reduce vehicle weight etc. etc. All by chance. Has nothing to do with me being smart or industrious and everything to do with lucking into ownership of a bike that kind of teaches you how to work on it and has a great online community.

I also really really really want a Miata!!!



This is a great comment because in my motorcycle group of roughly ~60 or 70 people over the years, maybe 25% have owned a Miata. Apparently the motorcycle+miata crossover is huge. Usually along with an SV650 or DRZ at some point as well.

I never had a Miata but I did buy a DRZ and have a blast on it for about 4 hours. The following morning it wouldn't start and after spending all the time I was willing to spend on doing valves/carb/etc, I decided that the 450 kit was to blame, so I just traded it for a 2stroke! I do hope a sumo will be in my future now that I live in a city, though.

Good luck on your Miata endeavors, I'm sure you wont regret it!


> Apparently the motorcycle+miata crossover is huge.

Going fast is all about power/weight. Some gear heads love changing the numerator. Some realize that the best option is to change the denominator. :)


There is no amount of power or setup that will make a heavy car handle lightly. Physics.

And until a person has driven something in the Miata or lighter category, they don't know what they're missing.


Now I really really want a Suzuki DR-Z400. Thanks!


Not in the budget right now, but damned if you didn't just sell me a motorcycle


Big caveat which I forgot to mention: As it comes from the factory it’s a bit compromised!

There are reasons why the bike taught me to swap and tune carbs and rework the suspension!! heh!!!

It’s still a lot of fun to ride, and in bigger bike markets you’ll be able to find a bike that already has the stops taken out!




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