> Wars for resources were happening long before Russia invaded Ukraine. What changed is that the US stopped being the only one doing it and Russia joined the party.
So russia invaded Ukraine for resources?
> Russia is a big problem for the US because it is very resource rich
So russia needed to invade Ukraine why again? If it has all the resources.
> global warming will benefit Russia greatly.
I think this is a really simplistic and shortsighted view. The extremes will get worse and ecosystems that feed the people will collapse.
The US really messed up in Ukraine. They tried to sneak Ukraine into NATO which means granting US military access to Ukrainian territory. Only an idiot could have thought that this would go without a military answer from Russia. In fact, the US strategists probably predicted that Russia would react militarily. However, they probably didn't think that Russia would be so determined. Now the real problem is if Ukraine surrenders and accepts Russia's terms of strict military neutrality this would be devastating to the US global stature and the US powers will do everything to try to stop it including dragging the rest of Europe to war. That is my fear.
US was not in Ukraine. Ukraine was not in NATO is not in NATO.
Ukrainian people had finally had enough of the russian puppet yanukovich and kicked him out.
russia then used green men and later official army to illegaly invade Ukraine.
Also the afraid of NATO story is complete bunk as Finland has now joined NATO without any objections from russia DOUBLING the russia NATO border.
russia was aggressive during czarist times, russia was aggressive during soviet times, russia is aggressive now. Trying to blame any of it to others is just dumb and evil.
Actually Russia and Ukraine were about to sign a peace deal in exchange for neutrality in April 2022. This was torpedoed by the UK and the US. Similar thing happened in Bosnia in 1992.
On 18 March 1992, all three sides signed the agreement; Alija Izetbegović for the Bosniaks, Radovan Karadžić for the Bosnian Serbs and Mate Boban for the Bosnian Croats. On 28 March 1992, after a meeting with US ambassador to Yugoslavia Warren Zimmermann in Sarajevo, Izetbegović withdrew his signature and declared his opposition to any division of Bosnia.
— Carrington–Cutileiro plan [Wikipedia]
I have no recollection of engaging in this topic previously, so I looked through your recent comments and see that you only engage in political threads (mainly Russia bashing), which is curious given that HN is a technical not a political forum. Are you a troll?
But it is a lie. Your own linked source says it too:
> When Moseichuk asked the party leader why Ukraine did not agree to the offer, the he stated that Ukraine "had no confidence" in the Russians since they were ready to promise anything for Ukraine to agree.
> "We could not sign something, step away, everyone would relax there, and then they would [invade] even more prepared – because they have, in fact, gone in unprepared for such a resistance," he said. "Therefore, we could only explore this route when there is absolute certainty that this will not happen again. There is no such certainty."
The story about Ukraine and Russia having reached a deal, only to be abandoned under Western pressure, is and remains a lie repeated by Russian propaganda machine with the goal of painting Ukrainians as warmongers while Russia keeps shooting missiles at Ukrainian cities.
> The story about Ukraine and Russia having reached a deal, only to be abandoned under Western pressure, is and remains a lie repeated by Russian propaganda machine
Lol. You sound like a communist party slogan maker who switched flags. t00l
> with the goal of painting Ukrainians as warmongers while Russia keeps shooting missiles at Ukrainian cities.
No buddy. Read what I'm writing. It's pretty simple. The US (and UK) and Russia are warmongers. Ukrainians are victims of BOTH. They are essentially fucked because their leadership is either Russian puppets (past) or US puppets (present). As of today Ukraine probably lost over half a MILLION soldiers. Soon combined losses of all warring parties will be over a million. It is VERY sad. Fuck war and anyone who wishes it. Goodbye
Only russia is the warmonger. russia attacked Ukraine. russian soldiers are the ones that kill Ukrainians. You want killing to end? Call for russia to get out of Ukraine.
Why do you keep pointing fingers at parties that have no say in ending the war? Nor starting it for the matter as well.
Also armistice negotiations in April 2022 failed because the horrific genocide, torture and rape that russians did in Bucha came to light. No US and UK involvement there at all.
So russia invaded Ukraine for resources?
> Russia is a big problem for the US because it is very resource rich
So russia needed to invade Ukraine why again? If it has all the resources.
> global warming will benefit Russia greatly.
I think this is a really simplistic and shortsighted view. The extremes will get worse and ecosystems that feed the people will collapse.