> Why? A conforming client will just render the signature below the message as well as the other information (e.g. legal one).
Because in all other messaging platforms, content is either shown right above or right below where the user types. Attempts to forward a single paragraph will forward an entire email.
> Have you seen corporate email signatures in Germany? It’s basically the demonstration of the lack of sense and lack of taste of some exec, often being more than a half of the message. People do need to be constrained here and relieved from signature design duty.
That's a German problem, not a protocol problem. You can't fix social problems with technology.
> Unless the standard will require digitally signed receipt in absence of which reputation of sender will suffer.
Large mail providers already track this stuff and it doesn't help. Most of the spam I receive falls squarely in the category of "anyone with a spam filter will catch these".
I also don't think any kind of decentralised reputation system will work, because spammers will try to poison anything small mail servers can contribute to. We'd end up with the same IP reputation list system we currently have.
> Not really. They will have more constraints for the design, but embedding vector graphics should be possible, just with some restrictions. There exist brilliant marketing emails with minimal formatting.
So you're saying the Germans will have vector graphics email signatures?
I agree that a lot of these points could've made email better, but only if they were applied three or four decades ago. Nobody is going to switch to email without at least the abilities they currently have.
Personally, I like the idea behind Delta Chat, using email as no more than a transport for instant messages. You get the benefits of legacy email, with practical messaging shaped like modern instant messaging.
> Because in all other messaging platforms, content is either shown right above or right below where the user types. Attempts to forward a single paragraph will forward an entire email.
Why having knowledge of the protocol any UX designer would design the interface of the client so that such mistakes could be possible? It certainly can be solved by interface.
>That's a German problem, not a protocol problem. You can't fix social problems with technology.
It is not a social problem. Those ugly signatures exist because there’s legal requirement to include imprint in business mail without adequate support by protocol. It belongs to message metadata, not to message body (and any well-designed system considering this requirement would do it as metadata btw).
> I also don't think any kind of decentralised reputation system will work
It’s a matter of a separate discussion, but here it’s not about generic reputation system, but the one where cryptographic proof of trustworthiness is possible. It may work and it doesn’t have to rely on IP address.
Because in all other messaging platforms, content is either shown right above or right below where the user types. Attempts to forward a single paragraph will forward an entire email.
> Have you seen corporate email signatures in Germany? It’s basically the demonstration of the lack of sense and lack of taste of some exec, often being more than a half of the message. People do need to be constrained here and relieved from signature design duty.
That's a German problem, not a protocol problem. You can't fix social problems with technology.
> Unless the standard will require digitally signed receipt in absence of which reputation of sender will suffer.
Large mail providers already track this stuff and it doesn't help. Most of the spam I receive falls squarely in the category of "anyone with a spam filter will catch these".
I also don't think any kind of decentralised reputation system will work, because spammers will try to poison anything small mail servers can contribute to. We'd end up with the same IP reputation list system we currently have.
> Not really. They will have more constraints for the design, but embedding vector graphics should be possible, just with some restrictions. There exist brilliant marketing emails with minimal formatting.
So you're saying the Germans will have vector graphics email signatures?
I agree that a lot of these points could've made email better, but only if they were applied three or four decades ago. Nobody is going to switch to email without at least the abilities they currently have.
Personally, I like the idea behind Delta Chat, using email as no more than a transport for instant messages. You get the benefits of legacy email, with practical messaging shaped like modern instant messaging.