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>> Low gravity is a problem

>It might be, we don't know. This ignorance is also a problem.

We did a study of prolonged stay on ISS - lower bone density, muscle loss, problems with eyes.

Our bodies evolved and adapted to live in 9.8m/s2 its not a leap of faith to think there will be issues in 3.7



> We did a study of prolonged stay on ISS - lower bone density, muscle loss, problems with eyes

Indeed, but the ISS is also zero gee.

> its not a leap of faith to think there will be issues in 3.7

I'm not suggesting it requires a leap of faith, merely that it is currently untested. Until we try, either hypothesis is plausible.


I t actually seems strange that the next 'step' isnt a spinning space science station, with simulated gravity.

Is there an obvious reason this would not work ?


> Is there an obvious reason this would not work ?

Nah, it's fine.

It's just big and expensive and we've already got gravity under our feet, so it's a very expensive way to remove one of the few reasons to do stuff in space in the first place.

We'll get around to it at some point, for sure. Just no hurry.


Wouldn't it have to spin really fast to get workable "gravity" on board? Then if it's spinning really fast, how do people get on or off?


If the loop is large, you don’t have to move too fast. Fairground rides spin fast enough to exceed 1g with little kids in them, and those rides are usually not wider than 10m, often less. Speed here is distance around the circumference, so twice the radius, half the turning speed.

I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but generally it’s considered that the issue is more that if you’re standing on a spinning cylinder, you might have weird balance issues due to speed differences between head and feet. Also, you have to remember you don’t have gravity, so as you intuit, entry and exit are trickier.

Two broad ideas for entry/exit: do it at the center where the physical position is stable, then “spin up” some how, or alternately get up to external speed and lock on to something that you then elevator through the surface.


Take a really long cable, put a suitable weighted asteroid on the other end, then spin the whole thing up. As long as the cable holds, you have a decent amount of centrifugal force without needing a particularly large habitat.


I love the prospect :D

If cable holds you have gravity, if it fails you risk being slingshot into deep space


The usual design for these things have very low surface speeds, so you're not likely to go off into the deep even if it fails, as you're going to be pretty close to your prior combined orbit even without thrust, and the Δv needed to get back will be tiny.

But also, the forces are never more than the apparent gravity times the mass, so when someone does finally end up experiencing this, it will be part of a larger pattern of bad maintenance and/or engineering that likely has other things going wrong at the same time.


I was only joking, there is no way this would be singular cable without a fallback safety.


Neal Stephenson suggested having two habitats with hooks so they’d spin against each-other. Then you could have fun and climb up to see your neighbors.


Was assuming they do a kind of ferris wheel with center and 3 or 4 spokes to start, maybe 200m diameter, and gradually fill out the rim with modular units maintaining balance, and center of mass at central dock ?


you get off by running in the opposite direction and jump :D

I am only slightly exaggerating


Through the middle




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