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Speaking of EOL-driven upgrades, the absurdly short "LTS" that most tech stacks have makes them decidedly not boring. Even Microsoft has fallen for this absurdity with 36 month "long" term support intervals for .NET versions. Are three any language stacks with an LTS that is at least five years (ideally much more) that aren't spelled in all caps?


Code is a liability and dependencies/vendors/libraries are liabilities I have even less control over. I hate when an internal release has to be "about" upgrading dependencies. I get it, I do. But I hate the idea of "we're going to focus on a thing that doesn't actually yield any tangible advancement of our goals."

Not that I'm unappreciative of what projects like Postgres, Django, etc. have given me. Like a good physician, I appreciate you and everything you do, but we'd both be happier seeing each other as rarely as possible.


> Code is a liability

I say that sometimes to people and they look at me weird. When you work in bigger projects with a lot of people it is harder to argue why you shouldn't write the code than to just do it.

Like, for example, I had to code some build-step that updated some assets that took about 5 seconds to run. That operation was done maybe once a month by other developers, during review another person asked why I didn't parallelize the process and cache already processed files and I was just like: it would add 200+ lines of extra code and error handling and it is not like I mind doing it, I just don't think it is worth the overhead of understanding this code and troubleshooting any possible bugs of this extra optimization code.

And it is harder to argue this kind of thing back and forth than it is to just do it. And now there are 200 extra lines of code that would take anyone else besides me at least an hour to grasp before they can make changes.

Same applies on discussing why you shouldn't add a dependency. If anything that is harder because you need to justify the extra time of not using the dependency.


Which is one of the most unappealing thing about the marketing material for LLMs services like Copilot. The issue was never the speed of writing code, more often than not, you're contemplating if you should write it. And if you need to, how much of it should you write and how to make the eventual rewrite easy.

If you're experienced enough, you either knew the rough way to code a task or realize that you need to take time to investigate the problem space. I don't think I ever ask myself what should I do to write more code with less effort. All the improvements I've made was to target precisely the thing I wanted to edit.


Java, it isn't all caps, and has three years support, plus 2 extended support, in the case of Oracle, other JVM vendors offer even longer times, e.g. from Azul, https://www.azul.com/products/azul-support-roadmap/

Most compilers of ISO languages, some of them were all caps named, others not.




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