Hi Jeff, thanks for these and congrats on the launch. Your docs mention supporting accents. I cannot get accents to work at all with the demo.
For instance erasing the entire instruction and replacing it with ‘speak with a strong Boston accent using eg sounds like hahhvahhd’ has no audible effect on the output.
As I’m sure you know 4o at launch was quite capable in this regard, and able to speak in a number of dialects and idiolects, although every month or two seems to bring more nerfs sadly.
A) can you guys explain how to get a US regional accent out of the instructions? On what you meant by accent if not that?
B) since you’re here I’d like to make a pitch that setting 4o for refusal to speak with an AAVE accent probably felt like a good idea to well intentioned white people working in safety. (We are stopping racism! AAVE isn’t funny!) However, the upshot is that my black kid can’t talk to an ai that sounds like him. Well, it can talk like he does if he’s code switching to hang out with your safety folks, but it considers how he talks with his peers as too dangerous to replicate.
This is a pernicious second order race and culture impact that I think is not where the company should be.
I expect this won’t get changed - chat is quite adamant that talking like millions of Americans do would be ‘harmful’ - but it’s one of those moments where I feel the worst parts of the culture wars coming back around to create the harm it purports to care about.
Anyway the 4o voice to voice team clearly allows the non mini model to talk like a Bostonian which makes me feel happy and represented; can the mini api version do this?
For instance erasing the entire instruction and replacing it with ‘speak with a strong Boston accent using eg sounds like hahhvahhd’ has no audible effect on the output.
As I’m sure you know 4o at launch was quite capable in this regard, and able to speak in a number of dialects and idiolects, although every month or two seems to bring more nerfs sadly.
A) can you guys explain how to get a US regional accent out of the instructions? On what you meant by accent if not that?
B) since you’re here I’d like to make a pitch that setting 4o for refusal to speak with an AAVE accent probably felt like a good idea to well intentioned white people working in safety. (We are stopping racism! AAVE isn’t funny!) However, the upshot is that my black kid can’t talk to an ai that sounds like him. Well, it can talk like he does if he’s code switching to hang out with your safety folks, but it considers how he talks with his peers as too dangerous to replicate.
This is a pernicious second order race and culture impact that I think is not where the company should be.
I expect this won’t get changed - chat is quite adamant that talking like millions of Americans do would be ‘harmful’ - but it’s one of those moments where I feel the worst parts of the culture wars coming back around to create the harm it purports to care about.
Anyway the 4o voice to voice team clearly allows the non mini model to talk like a Bostonian which makes me feel happy and represented; can the mini api version do this?