There's no question to the quality of Copilot.

I genuinely don’t know if you mean “it’s unquestionably bad” or “it’s unquestionably good”.

I was under the impression GitHub built and maintained that, but perhaps that’s changed… If not I wouldn’t consider it a Microsoft built product like windows etc (yes I’m aware ms owns gh)

everyone that contributed a project to github built it.

I'm sure there are some people out there somewhere who haven't tried it and so still think it could be good.

Is there? And which Copilot is that? Github? Office 365? Windows? Yet another?

Obligatory link to my comment re: Microsoft product naming and the discussion that followed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40419292

most people like vs code and lots of companies have built on top of it so there must be some quality there that people like.

It's more that there isn't a single credible alternative. So, winning by default, not by merit.

But it didn’t win by default, it beat out the other alternatives, sublime and a GitHub editor (prior to acquisition).

VS Code (Monaco at the time) was developed by a small team largely in secret to keep it safe from other MS departments so it’s really not like other MS software. It has been safe from meddling for a while there is a chance it’ll be a victim of its own success.

The editor itself, Monaco, is nice enough and I’ve built some browser based ides, with it. Clientele consisting of primarily data scientists seemed to enjoy it