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>It indicates that it's a follow-on to postmodernism.

How? it's just postmodernism itself.

There is no truth because everything is relative. There is no singular, objective truth, facts are intrinsically bound to their context, hence post-truth.



> How? it's just postmodernism itself. / There is no truth because everything is relative. There is no singular, objective truth, facts are intrinsically bound to their context, hence post-truth.

That's not postmodernism but a caricature of it by its critics.

Postmodernism cares deeply about truth. It is highly skeptical of power, bias, perception, etc. and provides tools to mitigate these risks to truth.

Post-truth is cares very little about truth and is especially non-skeptical, imho.


> Postmodernism cares deeply about truth. It is highly skeptical of power, bias, perception, etc. and provides tools to mitigate these risks to truth.

I think someone told you this and you believed it, but the track record of postmodernists in academia tells a different story.

I once saw a history lecture from a dean of the history department who had written of a book on WWII in the Philippines. This is one of the most heavily studied and well documented periods in human history. There are dozens of books and hundreds of papers on this topic.

My father-in-law, who was born there and lived through the war there, read the book. He called it historical fiction. The book cherry-picked facts badly, ignored events which countered the narrative of the book and in general made every effort to promote an entirely counter-factual narrative of events. In addition, the author had no real expertise in military or naval warfare and didn't seem to understand even the basics about how wars are fought.

When things like this happen on a regular basis, it is hard to say that postmodernism cares about objective truth in any way. In fact, they seem to actively dislike reality. This isn't a caricature, this is from the horse's mouth. If you want people to have a different perception of postmodernism, make events like this have some sort of penalty, because he's still the dean many years later.


> I think someone told you this and you believed it

Obviously you don't care about the truth but just fabricate bullshit about other people that's convenient to you. I know the topic well; you clearly don't.

Your father is one source; he no doubt has his experience and memory which are important to him. If you look at the sources of a scholarly history book, you'll see thousands of people - that's how history is done, by researching primary sources like your father. Of course not everyone will agree; people will have widely varying perspectives (which is something that postmodernism helps you understand and dealt with).

These cheap shots at me, scholarship, and postmodernism - which has its flaws, but not this stuff - are an insult to everyone's intelligence, including yours.


It's hilarious to read American history and read in every book how everyone who had something the US wanted, or went counter to US interests accidentally happened to have been evil in some way so the US could conveniently show up out of selfless desire just to right the wrongs and end up with the geopolitical result that it wanted in the first place.

People with decades long scholarly careers write this shit (some even having the highest credentials), and people eat it up.

History as written by (especially US) historians is just racist boomer fanfiction (pushed as propaganda to enforce the national myth) for your own country. This is especially true of the US.

And their errors and not subtle by any means. When they write something that is so wrong about you that every man on the street who even has cursory familiarity with the subject would reject as not even wrong, so far from the truth it's clear to the observer that the one who made these claims doesn't even have basic familiarity with the subject.

You've countered this argument with an appeal to authority (his word against thousands of researchers) - how fortunate was a person like Galileo who could just make people look into a telescope and show his numerous and highly distinguished opponents that they we wrong - unfortunately no such thing can exist for history. The next best thing I could recommend to US scholars is to have their work reviewed by top and highly respected local scholars for obvious errors, not biases of overarching narrative but, basic shit and continuity errors that common man on the street wold laugh at.

How could this be? Do I believe Americans to be specially dumb? Just like Big Tobacco pushing studies on the health benefits of smoking for pregnant mothers, and Coca Cola delegitimizing the view that sugar is bad, US historians have a vested interest in propping up US imperialism - or are acting as reactionaries saying everything the US (or white people) has ever done was purely evil, what you have is a partisan shouting match (also called activism), that is the exact opposite of scholarly work.


Caricature? Foucault talked about "regimes of truth" determining that context and society are what determine truth. Baudrillard straight up said "The simulacrum is true" putting it over objective fact. Derrida's whole deal was about how language constructs, rather than describes, reality.

If all of this sounds ridiculous that's another matter, if I actually wanted to cast shade upon them then gee, I'd just quote their stances on sex with minors.


First, I mean no personal insults. Let's discuss ideas.

As someone who grew up being de-programmed from Soviet propaganda by my parents every time I came home, starting from pre-school, I cannot even begin to communicate how allergic I am to this discourse. "There is no truth" is some grade-A bullshit to me. What's next? Maybe Stalin wasn't Hitler's military ally to start WWII? Maybe we live in a simulation? What's the point of anything? 1+1=3!

I could just be dumb, but my theoretical view from 30,000 feet, or 30,000 years in the future can be read here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45661175




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