> This is the first time I see anyone indicating there is a connotation for objectification there.
Happens to all of us, we are all inside our small information bubbles. The curious engage in broader conversation, such as us on HN.
Let me drop some links to illustrate that this is not just my personal (mis-) understanding:
- "Female, woman: Revised guidance noting that some people object to the use of female as a descriptor for women because it can be seen as emphasizing biology and reproductive capacity over gender identity. It can also sometimes carry misogynistic tones that may vary in severity by race, class and other factors." AP Stylebook recommends female as adjective, women as noun (https://help.apstylebook.com/support/solutions/articles/6600...)
- "Overall, participants rated the words females/males as more biological and technical, and women/men as higher on all other dimensions (e.g., appropriate, polite, warm)" (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36348255/)
I don't ascribe to everything written here, but I think it makes clear that wider discourse on the topic exists. Especially when using female(s) as a noun.
> Female, woman: Revised guidance noting that some people object to the use of female as a descriptor for women because it can be seen as emphasizing biology and reproductive capacity over gender identity.
This reads as using "male" and "female" is more precise? Communication many times is about being precise no?
Gender identity is typically irrelevant and in many ways too personal.
Happens to all of us, we are all inside our small information bubbles. The curious engage in broader conversation, such as us on HN.
Let me drop some links to illustrate that this is not just my personal (mis-) understanding:
- "Female, woman: Revised guidance noting that some people object to the use of female as a descriptor for women because it can be seen as emphasizing biology and reproductive capacity over gender identity. It can also sometimes carry misogynistic tones that may vary in severity by race, class and other factors." AP Stylebook recommends female as adjective, women as noun (https://help.apstylebook.com/support/solutions/articles/6600...)
- "Otherwise, avoid using “male” and “female” as nouns and instead use the specific nouns for people of different ages (e.g., women)." (https://apastyle.apa.org/style-grammar-guidelines/bias-free-...)
- "Overall, participants rated the words females/males as more biological and technical, and women/men as higher on all other dimensions (e.g., appropriate, polite, warm)" (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36348255/)
- https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/lady-woman-female-us...
- https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/462498/the-use-o...
I don't ascribe to everything written here, but I think it makes clear that wider discourse on the topic exists. Especially when using female(s) as a noun.