Claude is still a better agent for software professionals though it is less capable, so there isn't nothing to having the incumbent advantage.

Not my experience. Codex is the top coding model in my experience and has been since it’s out. Makes fewer mistakes and understands better my intentions.

This wasn't my experience at all.

I tried Codex for a short while but quickly went back to Claude. Found myself having to revert Codex changes all the time. Maybe I had subconsciously altered my workflow/prompting to work well with Claude, but somehow wasn't providing Codex with the correct context, not sure.

My purposeful caveat was 'software professionals', i.e. user in the loop engineering. Codex is much better at slinging slop that you later need to spend some time reviewing if you actually want to understand it.

I don't even know what the fuck "agentic" is or why the hell I would want it all over my software. So tired of everything in the computing world today.

As far as I can tell, it just means giving the LLM the ability to run commands, read files, edit files, and run in a loop until some goal is achieved. Compared to chat interfaces where you just input text and get one response back.

Prompting, planning, iteration, coding, and tool use over an entire code base until a problem is solved.

Sounds like an antipattern being rebranded as a solution. I shouldn't have to precisely instruct AI on how to solve every problem. I should be able to give it requirements and with its vast knowledge it should be able to understand various design elements within a system like design patterns and make the appropriate change without me needing to tell it to look for those things.

> So tired of everything in the computing world today.

That's actually sad, and if you're - like I am - long in the tooth in computer land, you should definitely try agentic in CLI mode.

I haven't been that excited to play with a computer in 30 years.