What do you think about Logseq? I tend to prefer native outliners and Obsidian just doesnt scratch that itch for me as well as drag and dropping and swipe indenting
I also use Logseq for quick daily notes, since I like that it has the infinite vertical view & I want these notes open in a different program. But it has some quirks and tells that make it feel like lower quality software compared to Obsidian, e.g. its startup time is horribly slow.
I do find what I would call the suspension/handling in car terms is a little less zippy but it nails everything else out of the park, I'll have to adjust. Tye upside is there is a ton of stuff that is technically customizable I just havent waded into that yet
