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I just realized that the netflix ceo is a big-time democratic party donor, and that paramount is supposedly being supported by larry ellison (big-time republican/trump donor) and saudis? I'm sensing a strong political/influence angle here by the billionaires.




There's no "supposedly."

His kids are nepobabies that each run their own media company. His son is running Paramount, and his daughter has Annapurna.


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russia doesnt have oligarchs for 15 years at least, it has the opposite of it. Oligarchs control the big chunks of economy, media and have a lot of political influence direct and indirect. What they have right now is some friends of the dictator who own something until dictator allows them.

The closest US has to olugarcha is Bezos and Musk, but they dont have each their own party and a few poket ministers in addition to owm bank and 20ish percent gdp.

US is still too big and rich for this shit


I think we are well into uncharted territory. One thing's for sure - here be dragons. I'm sure the US version of oligarchy will come in its unique flavor. Probably people won't even fall out of windows! That mode of "suicide" is maybe distinctly Russian.

I don't want to disappoint, but you won't get oligarchy. You will get dictatorship and war.

It makes sense actually. :-( The US might be "free" and federated enough to not just bow down to a dictator.

Larry Ellison is also a very public supporter of Israel and the IDF, as recently as a few months ago speaking in support of Israel’s actions in Gaza.

He’s the largest individual donor to the IDF.

Wait...individuals can donate to a country's army?

No, you can't donate directly to the IDF, but turns out you can just make stuff up as long as it fits one's world views.

There's a lot of people making this stuff up on the internet then.

Yes you can donate (why did you add the word "directly"?). It just passes through intermediary organizations, such as the Friends of the IDF. There are even non profits that pay for "lone soldiers" -- international mercenaries -- to take part in the genocide in Gaza. Hundreds of thousands of "lone soldiers" took part, I believe something like 20,000 came from the US alone.

Sure! And in return Oracle gets sweet IDF contracts payed by the US gov.

So we just blatantly lie now because "Israel=bad"? You can't donate directly to the IDF. US funding isn’t paying Oracle through some back door. If you’ve got a real source, show it—otherwise it’s just nonsense.

Thank you for asking! I thought I was just making funny comment on political situation. After quick search it turns out its not funny… just predictible.

“Larry Ellison donates $16.6 million, says, ‘Since Israel’s founding, we have called on the brave men and women of the IDF to defend our home’”

Oh and i know FIDF - Friends of the IDF (nonprofit through which these donations are going) are just that. Just friends.


There is a huge war in europe (largest since WW2) and both sides rely on donations from individuals

Yes. I donated to the Ukrainian army and others can easily too

That’s misleading. You can’t directly donate to the IDF—people give to NGOs that support soldiers’ welfare, not combat operations or weapons. And while Ellison has given millions to FIDF, there’s no evidence he’s “the largest donor,” and no public ranking shows that. You can dislike Israel without inventing facts.

Why do you have such an issue with the donation to the IDF? I understand disputing that he's the largest donor, but I doubt he has ever written a big cheque directly to Trump (or in fact anyone except his family) either, is it also unclear whether he's a Trump donor?

Even if there were no mechanism for donating to the IDF available to the general public, do you believe someone like Ellison couldn't easily give money to whomever he wanted?


He financed facilities on an IDF base.

I think we can leave the pedantry for the ICC and just stop at him being a rather nasty genocide supporter regardless of the details.


What does this have to do with anything?

It’s something I recently learned and has informed the way I think about him and his family. Seems others have appreciated the knowledge too.

As a Jew myself, I think the actions of Israel over the past 2 years are clearly ethnic cleansing and I believe anyone who supports that effort should be exposed for doing so.


>supposedly

My man, you don't have to mince words here. This hostile bid is backed by Jared Kushner, who is the President's son in law. One Rich Asshole owns Paramount, and is most certainly supporting the bid here.

This deal would also leave CNN in a very vulnerable position (they are owned by WB), which is exactly what Trump wants.


Strong ”I am the State” vibes.

Does seem to be the direction things are going. The admin picks the winners and losers, and of course the real winners are Trump, family and allies.

One thing that is remarkable is how fast American media companies are folding or getting scooped up by the oligarchs in order to bring the sacrificed carcass to the ruler. Even Putin did not have it this easy - took him years.

It took decades, this is the late stages of an organized and intentional process they've been working towards, and spending vast amounts of money on, since the 1990s if not earlier.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

It took years to get here tho. The oligarchs worked on this for years.

That is exactly what is going on. Everyone at WB management knows that the Ellisons want to weaponize CNN before the midterms runoffs start in spring.

Netflix isn't buying CNN though, Paramount can just pick up Discovery on the cheap when its split off. There's no reason for them to even be trying to do a hostile bid either. I think this is just purely an ego/power trip thing.

It's scheduling. WBD was set to spin off Discovery Global in April --- after the March congressional primaries. The hostile bid creates leverage to get the TV networks spun off sooner, rather than later, to ensure that the Ellisons can pick them up Q1, in time to set the narrative for the congressional primaries.

See: https://substack.com/@thedreydossier/p-180959723


> the midterms runoffs

Do you mean primaries? Runoffs are a thing in some elections in the US, but not a thing that would start in spring for the congressional midterms.


Doesn't that imply that Netflix was planning to do the same (for their party)? Or are you saying Netflix is innocent here

No, it doesn't imply that. Saying party X plans to do something implies nothing about what party Y plans to do.

> Saying party X plans to do something

but that's not the whole thing being said.

Party X may have been planning on something, but party Y threw a wrench in the middle, causing party X to have to make some response. By implication, party X believes party Y to be throwing a wrench, hence, party X must act. Therefore, party Y also must be planning something that counteracts party X's desires. If it weren't so, party X would not act (as that costs money).


The thing that contradicts Party X's desires can just be not doing the thing Party X wants done, it doesn't have to be doing an equal and opposite thing.

This seems like a variation on the fallacy of the excluded middle.


It's closer to so-far-unnamed fallacy of "the right has no agency." Everything they do is in response to something done by the democrats or the left or whatever and so they aren't responsible for their actions.

Netflix wasn't buying CNN.

Both-sidesism is a hell of a drug.

Netflix and those involved hasn't conclusively metamorphosed into a Larry Ellison-esque state of Lawn Moweriness.

Make no mistake, it (Netflix) is still a billionaire corp; on the humanity scale, it scores quite low, but not lawn mower low. They're still outside the Ellison event horizon.


> it (Netflix) is still a billionaire corp

What does that mean?


It means do not make the mistake of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison.

Didn't you know? It's only bad when the people I don't like are doing it.

Well Netflix hasn’t given Trump a $15 million bribe or any other politician yet.

his son-in-law is outbidding netflix so $15bn maybe would do it :)

More than that, Trump said yesterday that Netflix's purchase of WB "might be problematic" and that he would be "personally involved in the decision of approving it".

He's trying to shakedown Netflix to pay fealty.


> More than that, Trump said yesterday that Netflix's purchase of WB "might be problematic"

Adding Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn815egjqjpo

> He's trying to shakedown Netflix to pay fealty.

I am not a supporter of most things this admin is doing, but also wouldn't be too sure on this one. I found it interestingly odd that out of nowhere he makes a comment on the deal after attending an event dealing with celebrating music and film. A regular shakedown would have happened before the deal when he met with the Netflix CEO recently, which the added link article mentions and was a person who Trump liked.

And now we see the Paramount thing that leads me to think it fits more with the suggestion that he takes the side of the last person he speaks with, which was probably someone at the same event on the paramount side.

I wouldn't rule out that he now plays them against each other in order to get something from it, but don't think it was the original reason for helping to throw a wrench into it


The President's son-in-law is involved in the hostile bid through his private equity firm Affinity Partners. https://www.axios.com/2025/12/08/jared-kushner-paramount-war...



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