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It's OK for the government to have the best guns, and in fact (as you suggest) that state of affairs is pretty much unavoidable for any government worthy of the name.

It's not OK for the government to have all the guns.

Given that, it's necessary to consider who should have legal access to guns and who should not.

What we call the "No-fly list" is an abhorrently-wrong way to do that.





> It's not OK for the government to have all the guns.

Why?

The argument I've heard Americans give over the years is to stop authoritarian governments, to keep the government "scared" of the people.

Yet people in the USA are now being snatched off the street and deported for what is supposed to be protected by the first amendment: speech.

Clearly literally getting shot at didn't keep Trump "scared".


Maybe because everyone knows violent uprising should be a last resort and things aren't bad enough to condemn millions to stravation and death yet.

Unless you are saying you personally would join a US uprising, asking why armed people haven't yet started one yet themselves isn't a compelling arguement to disarm them. If people were shooting back I think you and most others would be condemning them.


I'm saying Trump isn't even afraid of an uprising.

That's not a condemnation of the people failing to replicate the Jan 6 thing while switching red flags for blue ones.

I'm saying the freedom to have guns didn't do the thing that people say it does.

I would go further: I also don't think private arms would work if y'all did start firing them, because who wins a civil war is more likely to depend who the military supports than private firearms, and if the military aren't the deciding factor for whatever reason (internal split within the military?) then it's down to whoever outside the country is supplying weapons/logistics to which side (so, probably China?)


We aren't talking about a civil war though, we are talking about a civil uprising. Trump didn't take the government by force or strongarm politicians into compliance, they mostly went along with all this bullshit too. People already had the view that federal politicians as a whole were corrupt and self-serving and have been failing to effectively govern and legislate in the country's favor for decades. I also doubt any or enough of them would be willing to take up arms themselves and become a factional leader. Nobody is going to rally behind Kamala or some geriatric or the democratic party even if they were willing to try.

And in an insurgency type situation private arms/small arms are extremely effective, if costly with lives. The US failing to subdue multiple countries long term despite having a tiny fraction the amount of small arms, veterans, or people directly involved in US logistics operations, is all the proof we need. Nobody wants that, it would be horrendous and bloody, but tanks and planes don't run off mere hopes and dreams and the US citizenry is more heavily armed by multiple factors than any other country or people in history.




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