Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

Amen. Blaming Disney for bad content is like blaming politicians.

Who asked for the content? Who elected the politicians?

**[Jiminy] crickets**





Garbage in, garbage out, as someone wise once said

Fwiw I think the all US presidents since Clinton were elected on a non interventionist/pacifist campaign. Blaming the voters when every one of them (less so with Biden) violated those promises is a bit unfair, if you still believe in democracy.

Almost every one of them was elected again, often by wider margins (the only exception losing to another one of them) after deatroying any illusion innthat direction you might argue was produced by their campaign positions, so I don't think you can absolved the American electorate here, even if one agrees that their campaign before taking office met your description.

The parent's claim is effortlessly debunked.

Bush sure wasn't anti-interventionist for the second term after entering the Iraq War 2.0. Even Obama campaigned to persist the "necessary" Afghanistan war.


I don't recall George W. Bush ever actually promising to stay out of wars and interventions. It's been standard for the two parties to criticize each-other on grounds of doing interventionism badly or going too far towards one extreme regarding foreign policy, but nobody has run as a real pacifist or isolationist because they would lose in a landslide. It especially doesn't help that pacifism and isolationism are associated with activist fringes in both parties who often lean into crank theories or make friends publicly with adversarial states.

Blaming the voters seems completely sensible when they reelected W in 2004. The man's Vice President was Dick freakin' Cheney. You can't seriously tell me the people voted for pacifism and got screwed over.

We can acknowledge that people are terrible, while also wanting people not to cater to the lowest common denominator.

You appear to be lost.

Who said and where's the "false dichotomy" you allude to in the discussion above?


I read your comment as saying that we should blame the people who create the demand for Disney's products, and the voters who elect the politicians, instead of Disney and the politicians. Not so?

No, comparative blame is fair for all parties.

The context is messy, but my comment's in the context of rejecting blame on Disney alone for "losing their way" when they have had the same way (read: $$$) as before and they're delivering products people want.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: