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what a beautiful line, look at it go up

no change in trend though.

and cheaper gas is basically trump policies.

i think we should ban gas and let other countries take over (with gas) /s


No change in trend is part of the problem, no change or accelerating is exactly the whole problem...

Cheaper gas is a thing Trump says but basically nothing the administration has done is leading to cheap gas. It's the inevitable result of demand declines and decades of domestic production capacity increases.

Interestingly one policy Trump actually controls: he has cut the rate of adding stocks to the Strategic Petroleum Reserve in half. From Dec '24 to Dec '25 they added only 19 million barrels, compared to the 40 million barrels added in the prior year, despite Trump campaigning on filling the SPR "right to the top". The last, and only, administration that has topped off the SPR was Obama.


Well, he has been looking like he's going to invade Venezuala for a little while now. If they do a Syria-esque takeover of the oil-producing regions there could possibly be cheaper gas for wherever that gas would get shipped.

Don't hold your breath. Those fields need investment.

Ah...remember the days of 350.org? How cute that seems now.

Do you all realize how catastrophic this is?


When it actually snowed in winter? Yes, in fact I do remember that.

You're gonna have to locate yourself for this comment to make any sense. Plenty of places still get snow regularly in winter, and nothing humans can do will change that

Weather is not climate.

Over many years, yes, that is in fact climate.

Not in the manner or scale you're suggesting.

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Nice strawman :)

SF NIMBY aren't environmentalists, they are obstructionists.

Now for a true scotsmanism - actual environmentalists overwhelmingly support nuclear power, expansion of wind and solar, and geothermal where it is easy to get to, and not too destructive to drill for.

I've not surveyed the population that travels to burningman, but I doubt they are all against sustainable energy, but I've never been, so I don't know.

Environmentalist is a discipline, not a personality type.


Strawman? Hmm, let's just do a Google. The top US environmental organizations:

1. Sierra Club

2. WWF

3. 350

4. Nature Conservancy

5. Environmental Defense Fund

Okay, now let's do "$org nuclear energy":

https://www.sierraclub.org/nuclear-free

https://wwfeu.awsassets.panda.org/downloads/wwf_position_sta...

https://350.org/solutions-series-nuclear/

https://www.nature.org/content/dam/tnc/nature/en/documents/C... (pro-nuclear, these must be the only Real Environmentalists)

The EDF opposes nuclear energy projects in practice https://environmentalprogress.org/edf but is otherwise generally ambivalent in statements

Therefore, I have to say that a quick survey of the data shows that I am correct. Feel free to use an LLM agent to replicate this human analysis.

Environmentalists appear to be like Communists. Supposedly in favour of some idea, but it appears strangely that they keep doing the opposite thing. I'm sure Real Environmentalism Hasn't Been Tried Yet.




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