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"You can't. So don't advertise it as free. It's just lying"

its free as you paid zero dollar

"People either pay with their data, their attention or their money."

for some people money is more important than their data, and its vice versa with wealthy customer

I agree that in the future maybe we can control how much data/money we can paid for the service but that just not possible in current time





> its free as you paid zero dollar

What about other currencies? Do you only count state-issues currencies? Have you heard about barter?

> but that just not possible in current time

Why not?


"What about other currencies? Do you only count state-issues currencies?"

well you convert them to usd

"Have you heard about barter?"

well you are free to choose paid service that else where, I dont understand this coming from. no one force you to choose free product


The point is it's not free, you're exchanging time, attention and data instead of money.

In fact, you're exchanging them at a rate you are not informed about which means you are disadvantaged in this exchange.

It would be free if for example there were 2 tiers, free and paid and the free tier would be entirely supported by the paying customers. But it's not.

This is another way companies can legally lie to customers. I honestly don't understand why you keep defending them.


"This is another way companies can legally lie to customers"

there is no lie if you paid zero dollar on it

"which means you are disadvantaged in this exchange."

what do you mean disadvantage??? stop playing victim, you dont paid anything and you get the service for free

stop acting like globalist corporate literally evil or wrong, it literally mutualism relationship

"You paid with your data" ??? then what??? You acting like everyone is important???? if you are that important then just pay up for private service


1) Your lack of proper punctuation makes some sentences hard to read and it comes off as disrespectful.

2) Generally, people use the > character for quotes. You use " and that's fine but your third quote is not an actual quote from my message. This case is harmless but it's generally rude to put words in other people's mouths and mislead anybody else reading this into thinking I said a particular thing I did not.

3) Since "You paid with your data" is actually your phrasing, you admit that data is a form of currency. And since as you said, I paid, it cannot by definition be free.

4) Your insistence that state-issues currencies (or only the dollar) are the only valid currencies is wrong. People commonly perform other forms of exchange of both goods and services, surely you wouldn't claim e.g. somebody is performing work for free when he asks you for a counter-service or non-monetary compensation. I suggest reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consideration , it is closely related.

5) Disadvantage means one side of the negotiation has more information it can leverage to make a more beneficial deal to it at the expense of the other party. Since I don't know how much money my attention and data makes the company, I can't negotiate a fair price for me to pay in monetary terms instead of attention and data.

6) I am clearly important enough that my data, time and attention have monetary value.

7) What if I belong to a minority which would be targeted under a different regime? My data can be used to profile me. If the data can be sold or published today, there's nothing stopping a future government or even non-governmental organizations from using it. The right to privacy and the right to control my data is just as important as free speech for maintaining a free society.


well you just use another service that offer privacy

freedom isnt free




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