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lots of people seem to trust apple




Marketing can do a lot to create trust.

It's not all or nothing. Depending on your threat model, Apple's services might be fine. But I guess most people don't think enough about the implications of storing many years worth of data at a US company like Apple.


Apple has actually proven itself over a long period of time on this issue. Maybe Mozilla has as well (do they encrypt telemetry logs etc for people with a Mozilla login?) but I haven't heard so much about that.


Wrong. Apple explicitly preserves a backdoor in the e2ee of iMessage for the USG.

Source?


Did you really forgot about Snowden's Apple slide? Also their phones are routinely mirrored at the border. Just to support the unconstitutional government agenda of policing thoughts and speech.

> Did you really forgot about Snowden's Apple slide?

Was Apple coöperating or were they hacked? (I remember the smiley face for Gmail. Google, in that case, was hacked.)


Yes but Apple is also avoiding collecting a huge amount of data, e.g. by doing things on-device.


Ok, keep telling yourself that as you can’t remove iCloud…



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